Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[LondonNeil]

I love splitting green English oak, the smell is incredible and it splits soooooo easily! I've been at this for 4 years now and I've split about 12 cord, an I've lernt most of the tricks now. that pile from the other day, all split in 40 mins, mostly with the x17, an including the half a dozen large crotches. I feel like that Paul Bunyan guy.

 

[bigfellascott]

New like you guys bought it from the dealer? Or new being a previous owner said they did not run it?

Regardless something major was wrong there. A straight gassed saw would sieze long before the bearings would fail.

I believe it was imported from the US (new) yeah definitely not straight gas, quite simply the crank bearings fell to bits for some reason. They could have posted it back to the US for warranty I guess but by the time you go do it and the costs it's simpler for my mate to just rebuild it for them, everything else is ok but the ring was stuck in the groove so will have to free that up and get it working right and the rest is fine so won't take much to get it up and running properly again.

 

[svk]

It is incredible that both failed, you have to wonder if they both came from the same defective batch?

 

[bigfellascott]

It is incredible that both failed, you have to wonder if they both came from the same defective batch?

Yeah I guess they did, hard to say for sure though, we had a similar thing happen a year or so back with some Stihl bearings, new saws that only done very few hours work and bearings failing in the cranks.

 

[dancan]

That's what I'm saying, I've been in the reinvestment stage for a long time, I don't think it ends. It should be good for many yrs of business use as well as personal use .

Visual inspection is a portion of it also passing the ropes through your hand and feeling for defects is another part of it. You can feel a piece that has been over-stretched when pulling it through your hands very quick.

Just as with most everything there are way more accidents that happen because of human failure vs mechanical . I do like to know where this type of equipment has been and what kind of forces have been put on them though, it's probably more a feeling of control even when I could very easily make a mistake myself .

I always forget about that one .
Have you used any of them, they move very slow from what I see in the specs, can you imagine one on a double line .

For winching speed nothing will beat a logging winch for line speed , I've used 2.5t cable winches and they suck but a Griphoist is a different animal , it will pull or give you a controlled reverse with both directions of stroke so no wasted movements .
I've not had a chance to use a rope puller but I am always looking to scrounge one up

 

[MustangMike]

Multiple bearing fails like that are likely due to dirt or crud in the crank case.

A lot of the Asian bearings come with grit in them (first thing I do is flush them clean).

 

[James Miller]

My lunch break scrounging, the fun fact is that I work in suit, I always carry spare clothes as there's no wrong time for chainsaw work !! The other funny fact is that the log was 10fts long and about 20-24" diameter, so too big and heavy to put them in the pickup bed and not enough time to noodle them. Plus I only had my small 026 in the truck so noodling would have take me forever. So I let the wood there. At least I smell a bit of 2 strokes.

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I've seen Steve noodle stuff that size with an 026. Didn't seem to bother the saw at all.

 

[Be Stihl]

Been bucking then noodling these 18” oak rounds, just so I can handle them onto a splitting stump. My 261 seems to handle them well, does give it a good workout though.

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[woodchip rookie]

I love splitting green English oak, the smell is incredible and it splits soooooo easily! I've been at this for 4 years now and I've split about 12 cord, an I've lernt most of the tricks now. that pile from the other day, all split in 40 mins, mostly with the x17, an including the half a dozen large crotches. I feel like that Paul Bunyan guy.

Have you cut/split white ash or black cherry? They gotta smell better than oak.

 

[bigfellascott]

Multiple bearing fails like that are likely due to dirt or crud in the crank case.

A lot of the Asian bearings come with grit in them (first thing I do is flush them clean).

Yeah that's what I was thinking too Mike, surely they aren't getting their bearing from China? Makes one wonder I must say when you see things like this happen so early in a new saw.

 

[Cowboy254]

I love splitting green English oak, the smell is incredible and it splits soooooo easily! I've been at this for 4 years now and I've split about 12 cord, an I've lernt most of the tricks now. that pile from the other day, all split in 40 mins, mostly with the x17, an including the half a dozen large crotches. I feel like that Paul Bunyan guy.

Hey Neil, I've been burning some of that English oak type wood (?) that I picked up last year.



The uglies were stacked against the outside of the metal woodshed in full sun over summer - and it was a hot dry summer this year so they dried out no worries. It has been burning very well, similar burn time to peppermint I think with not much more ash. And boy was it easy to cut and split when green...well worth the effort. I have another 2 cubes or so split and stacked in the shed .

 

[rarefish383]

Have you cut/split white ash or black cherry? They gotta smell better than oak.

They smell different, I like the smell of Cherry splitting it, and love the smell of it burning. But the smell of a cord of Oak wood split and stacked just makes the whole area smell good. I prefer it to any other wood. It's the smell of my child hood, It's pretty much the only thing we split.

 

[Cowboy254]

Orright, since I'm having a bonfire construction inflicted upon me, you guys are going to have to put up with pics too. Ok?

Here I am, making a mess at Jodi's place...



Then, once I started cutting this big peppermint butt, I noticed a European wasp fly past.



Followed by another one, followed by four more, followed by about a million more...I dropped Limby and ran away like a mad thing.



I had a couple in my clothing but with the temp below 10°C, insects are not too active and I was able to brush them out without getting stung. I manhandled a load of logs into the trailer.



Current bonfire status is as follows...



More to come...

 

[panolo]

They smell different, I like the smell of Cherry splitting it, and love the smell of it burning. But the smell of a cord of Oak wood split and stacked just makes the whole area smell good. I prefer it to any other wood. It's the smell of my child hood, It's pretty much the only thing we split.

It's distinct and I love it. Working through a bunch of rounds and when you get to an oak it's always a slow down and sniff moment.

 

[chipper1]

It's distinct and I love it. Working through a bunch of rounds and when you get to an oak it's always a slow down and sniff moment.

Every time I cut a round/cookie of cherry I do the same, sometimes on oak, I don't with black locust lol.

 

[svk]

They smell different, I like the smell of Cherry splitting it, and love the smell of it burning. But the smell of a cord of Oak wood split and stacked just makes the whole area smell good. I prefer it to any other wood. It's the smell of my child hood, It's pretty much the only thing we split.

White oak is great....like being in the barrelhouse of a whiskey distillery. Red oak is a bit more pungent but satisfying knowing that you have some good BTU's in the rack.

 

[Deleted member 150358]

Ticks are definitely out in force here. No bites yet but have found several crawling up my legs after being out in the tall dead weeds.

 

[md1486]

Ticks are definitely out in force here. No bites yet but have found several crawling up my legs after being out in the tall dead weeds.

There's not a ton of ticks here in the canadian north east (but mosquitos that's another story) , but nevertheless I treat my outdoors/bush clothes with Permethrin. Never had any problem with them as they die instantly

 

[TeeMan]

Been bucking then noodling these 18” oak rounds, just so I can handle them onto a splitting stump. My 261 seems to handle them well, does give it a good workout though.

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What type of oak? The bark looks like it could almost be pecan.

 

[Erik B]

I don't have far to go to get this scrounge. I heard a noise outside and saw work had come acalling. It is raining and very windy. Looks to be a dead, formally stranding, elm.