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I've seen one person on here that used it. They said it was great for them and good enough to not use their other guides. It was not as good a file job but easier and faster for them. Only problem was it was made only for one size and would not work on skip chain. Personally I like a husqvarna guide or no guide for quick touch up
 
I'm using Stihl's 2 in 1 file, makes life easier. Saves me a ton of time when i'm out in the field. You can get them in different sizes. 4 mm, 4.8mm, 3/8, 0.325 and so on. With the 2 in 1 file you will always have razor sharp chains. Theres one thing worth noting when using the file. When the chain is 50% worn, you may want to remove the flatfile every now and then. It has a tendency to make it a bit too aggresive when the chain is worn.
 
They may work OK for a quick touch-up in the woods, but hardly better than just a suitable round file. You don't need to file the rakers at every touch-up, unless they are on the high side to start with.
The rakers likely never will become quite right with a set-up like that - but it will be better than not filing them at all....
 
Philbert said:
Made by Pferd, and may be less expensive* in blue. http://www.baileysonline.com/Chains...ries/Chain-Filing-Guides/Pferd-Filing-Guides/

As noted, a lot of people like them.

Philbert

EDIT: * Retail prices may be similar - but more likely to find a Pferd product on sale or discounted than a STIHL product.
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Likely because they don't know any better - there is absolutely no chance that it it is a good tool for chain maintenance over time, but it may have some merit as an emergency tool.....
 
SawTroll said:
Likely because they don't know any better - there is absolutely no chance that it it is a good tool for chain maintenance over time, but it may have some merit as an emergency tool.....
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Come on Niko. Different strokes for different folks!

If it works for these guys, it is better than trying to cut with a dull chain, or having to take the chain into the dealer each time.

Philbert
 
Philbert said:
Come on Niko. Different strokes for different folks!

If it works for these guys, it is better than trying to cut with a dull chain, or having to take the chain into the dealer each time.

Philbert
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Yes, no doubt - but the downside is that they may never care to learn how to do it properly.
 
The sad part is Sawtroll and Philbert are both 100% correct. On one hand a sharp chain is good for everyone. On the other, you misplace a guide your done cutting till you get new chain or replacement guide. I bought a more expensive guide and hated it. I ended up getting better for me results just practicing with a file. The husqvarna style guide is perfect for me. Just steadies my hand enough to stay consistent
 
I believe the tool is designed specifically for me with a 40+ hour work week, that has strived to learn to do it properly when I can, but try as I might, may not be the artist that some are. The PFERD CS-X gave me consistency in angles & raker height in less than 10 minutes for 20 inch loop than I've gotten by using a cheap grinder and files for both cutters and rakers in 30 minutes. Put the saw in a vice, turn on the bright lights and the CS-X maintains file height & file angles on cutters, plus takes down rakers on the same stroke. God bless capitalism cause I'm one of "those guys" and it works for me.
 
PhiloBeddoe said:
The sad part is Sawtroll and Philbert are both 100% correct.
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'Sad'? Why is that 'sad'? Both of us like being correct!

My perspective has always been that there are lots of ways to sharpen a chain - guys need to find something that works for them, even if it is not what somebody else does.

Philbert
 
I have this set up in all 3 sizes and it works just great. I am not sure it is always filing the rakers each time because it is meant to keep them at a certain height. For the novice I think it is a great tool but I see many “ pro’s “ use it just for the quick touch up in the field. It makes you keep the file at the correct angle so that when you pick up a traditional file it is a natural movement to keep the right angle as well. Well for me it was. 40.00 is what it costs here in Ontario 40 euro in the EU .
 
Philbert
Sad in the way I really want to side with Sawtroll. A simple pack of files and nothing else needed. Keep it simple kinda thing. But now a days everyone is in a hurry and no time for just a simple life, with work and family taking more time each year. Just makes everyone look for a way of less time and less work by throwing some money at it. But I know not everyone retired from work at 34 with a disability and about 18 hours a day to waste. So as long as everyone has a sharp chain and a way to keep it that way we can all make saw dust piles witha smile
 
I'm thinking the RG4 and a few files will be the way I go. Watched a few videos on it and it look s like it's almost impossible to screw up the chain. My FIL does it free hand and I envy him that he can do that. With time I might be able to as well. But to get the feel down I think a nice guide would be handy.
 
PhiloBeddoe said:
Philbert
Sad in the way I really want to side with Sawtroll. A simple pack of files and nothing else needed. Keep it simple kinda thing. But now a days everyone is in a hurry and no time for just a simple life, with work and family taking more time each year. Just makes everyone look for a way of less time and less work by throwing some money at it. But I know not everyone retired from work at 34 with a disability and about 18 hours a day to waste. So as long as everyone has a sharp chain and a way to keep it that way we can all make saw dust piles witha smile
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I don't think it is a matter of being in a hurry. I think it is a matter of being efficient. I can free hand file, I have a couple of chain grinders but I also have these tools. Right tool for the right job. While I am sure some here can file a chain better, this does a good enough job to keep me cutting and finishing up what I am working on.
 
Rockjock
Right tool for right job is why I get in trouble when I shop. Always something else to get and I'll find that reason somehow if I want it bad enough. I like files but there's a grinder in my near future for those nails I absolutely love hitting . I like efficiency too, and hitting nails in dead center of 28 inch Oak every other day of cutting is grinder territory
 
I can be pretty fussy, and obsess about chain details. Some guys 'just hit the cutters with a file' and cut lots of wood. Other guys just make a dull chain worse.

So, if someone finds something that works for them, I say, 'go for it'. I don't sell any of the file guides. or jigs, or grinders. I don't care if they pay someone to sharpen their chains. I am not offended if they do it differently than me. My only personal interest is if they are using a chain once, then throwing it away - then I want first 'dibs' on picking through their trash!

Every method of sharpening has its advantages and limitations. Each of the file guides have them, as well as free-hand filing. But so does new chain out-of-the-box for some guys!

Philbert
 

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