stihl ms241-c spur sprocket replacement to rim

[r black]

hello all , may be threads for this but cannot find them, ( on this site) ..... have Stihl ms241c with a bar 16 inch # 3005-000-4813 , 3/8 picco, looking to replace the spur , with the rim sprocket kit #1143-007-1002, is this just an easy swap ? using stihl chain # 3617-005-0055....... @chipper1 , @HarleyT ?, my local stihl dealer stated no problem , and ordered one stated they will install , however i have read this may not work ?? this dealer also stated they have these saws in stock ??? i guess maybe...please advise , thank you

 

[HarleyT]

Here is a pic of one on e-bay.

 

[HarleyT]

Looks like a quick swap.

 

[r black]

thanks Harley, i have seen that e-bay add from a good man , and supporter of the chainsaw community , however the question remains that with a..... 3/8 bar in 3/8 pitch picco , with a 16 inch bar , with the part # listed above , there is not enough adjustment left converting to this kit , and that after doing so you need to convert to a 56 link chain apposed to the 55 link, or change the bar to a different part # ............and i have 5 chains for this combo with my spur sprocket still in place ... so to Clarify, i am looking for this answer to this question can you confirm fitment ? ..

 

[HarleyT]

I don't know, I remember a similar discussion, but I don't remember the details.

 

[r black]

anyone? ...and if this is true what's to stop a grinding... slight ... of the open ended bar to make the provided adjustment,...... anyone? had this issue ..is it not worth the effort for the rim replacement , thank you

 

[Doorfx]

 

[r black]

thank you sir , their is not a question of the part for replacement existing , just if it will work with the 16 inch 3/8 chain and bar combo .........

 

[Doorfx]

I’m running the same set up but with an 18” bar.

 

[r black]

yep , i think it's only the 16 inch that, MAY have this problem, btw it may work fine just, ( other web sites state it will not)..

 

[Van462]

I run a 241 with the rim setup. I can get a 55 link on but barely. I sort of have to fold the bar into place. If you get bound while cutting it is very difficult to the remove the powerhead without having to pop the e clip off. Cant just grind the bar tail off, the adjuster is out of travel, so would have to oval the adjuster hole in the bar. I run the 56 link. Sucks as I wanted to share bars and chains with my 201. The extra chainspeed from the 7 pin makes it worth it for me.

 

[chipper1]

I can't tell you for sure, I run mine with a 14", but I did have another bar I had for it.
If you don't get an answer by tomorrow night give me a shout out here or a call and I'll see what all I have and try it for you.
Hope all is well out your way.

 

[mountainlake]

I run a 241 with the rim setup. I can get a 55 link on but barely. I sort of have to fold the bar into place. If you get bound while cutting it is very difficult to the remove the powerhead without having to pop the e clip off. Cant just grind the bar tail off, the adjuster is out of travel, so would have to oval the adjuster hole in the bar. I run the 56 link. Sucks as I wanted to share bars and chains with my 201. The extra chainspeed from the 7 pin makes it worth it for me.

Do some timed cuts in bigger wood, you'll find the 7 tooth cuts slower than the 6 tooth.. Been there ,done that. 7 tooth might be faster in real small wood. Steve

 

[Franny K]

I run a 241 with the rim setup. I can get a 55 link on but barely. I sort of have to fold the bar into place. If you get bound while cutting it is very difficult to the remove the powerhead without having to pop the e clip off. Cant just grind the bar tail off, the adjuster is out of travel, so would have to oval the adjuster hole in the bar. I run the 56 link. Sucks as I wanted to share bars and chains with my 201. The extra chainspeed from the 7 pin makes it worth it for me.

The bar and 7 tooth drive and 55dl work for me on a ms251. 56 dl and 7 tooth drive is kind a bit more bar tail space off than I prefer.


a drive link less to the drive sprocket, half a drive link per used half a drive sprocket, 3/8" less chain in front of sprocket center, 3/16 amount of change bar vs saw body.

Test out how much more the adjuster will go back, How much would one possibly have to file the hole forward?

 

[r black]

I run a 241 with the rim setup. I can get a 55 link on but barely. I sort of have to fold the bar into place. If you get bound while cutting it is very difficult to the remove the powerhead without having to pop the e clip off. Cant just grind the bar tail off, the adjuster is out of travel, so would have to oval the adjuster hole in the bar. I run the 56 link. Sucks as I wanted to share bars and chains with my 201. The extra chainspeed from the 7 pin makes it worth it for me.

yes thats what i have heard , it will go on but not with any adjustment left , think ill cancel the order for the rim sprocket kit , and just run the spur sprocket , thanks for the input

 

[r black]

I can't tell you for sure, I run mine with a 14", but I did have another bar I had for it.
If you don't get an answer by tomorrow night give me a shout out here or a call and I'll see what all I have and try it for you.
Hope all is well out your way.

thank you mr. black, i believe we have sorted this out , btw a have a new phone and lost your # in the swap out some time last year , hope all is well with you as well, sir , have watched 1-2 vids on u-tube, you have done on the 241c ...nice

 

[r black]

Do some timed cuts in bigger wood, you'll find the 7 tooth cuts slower than the 6 tooth.. Been there ,done that. 7 tooth might be faster in real small wood. Steve

so sounds like your on board with the , leaving it stock with the spur clutch rim ?

 

[chipper1]

thank you mr. black, i believe we have sorted this out , btw a have a new phone and lost your # in the swap out some time last year , hope all is well with you as well, sir , have watched 1-2 vids in u-tube you have done on the 241c ...nice

Okay, so you gonna let me in on it . Guessing you want to take sure it all works properly first.
I need to fix a damaged chain on my 192(hit a 3/8 chain when cutting ), maybe when I'm down there I'll see what I can do with the 241.
Cool, they are nice saws even though they don't handle as nice as a husky, they are a little lighter so it's not as important.

so sounds like your on board with the , leaving it stock with the spur clutch rim ?

I think the stock spur does just fine, but it's more expensive to change out.
The one I currently have is ported so it will run a 7-pin, but I have to be light handed with it or the clutch will slip.

 

[r black]

Okay, so you gonna let me in on it .,.....
Brett , the bar and chain combo for 16 inch bar will not work in the rim configuration due to lack of adjustment , in order for this to work , A: the chain will need an added link to 56 , or B: the 16 bar will need to be changed to a different part # , i will just be leaving the spur sprocket on and running it , looks like this combo in 16 inch 3/8 picco is the only bar and chain Combo that has this issue , their is a thread from a different forum with a discussion of this, i don't visit that site often ...

 

[chipper1]

Brett , the bar and chain combo for 16 inch bar will not work in the rim configuration due to lack of adjustment , in order for this to work , A: the chain will need an added link to 56 , or B: the 16 bar will need to be changed to a different part # , i will just be leaving the spur sprocket on and running it , looks like this combo in 16 inch 3/8 picco is the only bar and chain Combo that has this issue , their is a thread from a different forum with a discussion of this, i don't visit that site often ...

I'll fix your quote .
Got it, I'm sure @SAWMIKAZE would have the answer on it as well if he swings by, but he's hanging over there most the time from what I have seen.