sawinredneck
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Mr. Hall posted this in another thread, I feel it's worthy of it's own thread, here's the quote:
I take exception to a few things stated here. My little POS Husky 350, had it for three years, ran it hard, treated it like a dog. Tore it down and moded it. Run it even harder for the next four years. I like to tear it down once a year, just for a look. Simple little things they are to work on. Piston still looks new, cylinder still looks new, everything is nice and tight and clean as a whistle.
I pull the muffler off my modded 046 now and again for the same reasons, piston shows no wear and all looks good. Four years of moderate use with that saw. The only reasons it doesn't get used that much is my back doesn't like it and most trees around here I just don't need it!
I run modded saws for upped production, I flog on them! Numerous times I've buried the 32" bar in an Oak or Hedge tree. Numerous times I've used that poor 350 to noodle down large chunks, knowing I should grab the bigger saw.
Both of these saws have been nothing but reliable, and durable.
I'm also aware of numerous arborists and professionals starting to run modded equipment. Sure many wont, but a lot are getting educated about the gains made in time on the job site and will not go back to a stock saw after running a stronger one.
I've not had any issues to date with any of the failures indicated above with modded saws. I have had some of these issues with stock saws however, but that's yet another can of worms!
Sorry Tom, not trying to pick on you, just wondered what others have to say about this subject.
Really, ok. I recently read a piece from one of the top engineers at Husqvarna. He made it quite simple. The faster it runs the faster it wears out. Same holds true for cars. GM once stated when you run a everyday car over a 100mph you just took 10,000 miles of life out of the engine. Modded saws gain in the cut how, by holding more rpm's in the cut, that is the only way it gains in cut times. Now take that and compare what GM said and the engineer at Husky said. Yes you gain speed but you sacrifice longivity to get it. Is it worth it is the question. To some maybe, to the majority I hardly doubt it. Each to their own but ignoring the facts don't change them.
I also think when the cylinder makers, all of them, lap nikisil around the edge of the ports they do so for a reason. If it didn't matter why do it. How can it be put back once its ground out, it can't. Does it matter, maybe, maybe not. Why pay for maybe's. I recently seen a brand new 372 hang a ring after modded, what was the real cause, nobody knows. Had it been left alone would it had hung up, not likely. A modding mistake made right, thats good, can't fault that at all. Doesn't change the fact though, she hung.
More to a saw than the top end. The bottom end is designed to handle a certain amount of stress. Raise the rpms you raise the stress on the bottom. Raise the compression you raise the stress on the lower rod bearing beyond what its designed to stand. Got that info from Stihl. I'm fairly certain they know abit more about stress than us so I take their word for it.
Most of what I'm saying can't be verified with modded saws. We know a well maintained saw can give 2000 hours of service. Most modded saws aren't used for serious work, mostly for play. I know of no arborist in my area that owns a modded saw, I know a few that laff at it the idea of it, they prefer to make money with their saw, not spend money on it to do a job it can already do.
Finally and foremost and not that I give a rip, its illegal on all new EPA certified saws. Thats the least of my concern but it is what it is.
I'm fairly certain I can get a whole lot more information about why its not such a great idea to alter your chainsaw. I have a huge source at my disposal but I'm not really interested in beating the subject to death. My jawing about it came from all the recent hell raising threads. We don't want this and we don't want that and thats fine but read into it closely these bomb throwing threads are all linked to what, modding. Doesn't bother me at all, let them ole boys fight. However when those fighting start whinning and running to the mods maybe its time to look closely at what the fighting is all about, tends to be the same subject over and over. Letem fight or get rid of the subject they are fussing over if its really that much of a pain, having it both ways just leads to more of what many claim they don't want.
I take exception to a few things stated here. My little POS Husky 350, had it for three years, ran it hard, treated it like a dog. Tore it down and moded it. Run it even harder for the next four years. I like to tear it down once a year, just for a look. Simple little things they are to work on. Piston still looks new, cylinder still looks new, everything is nice and tight and clean as a whistle.
I pull the muffler off my modded 046 now and again for the same reasons, piston shows no wear and all looks good. Four years of moderate use with that saw. The only reasons it doesn't get used that much is my back doesn't like it and most trees around here I just don't need it!
I run modded saws for upped production, I flog on them! Numerous times I've buried the 32" bar in an Oak or Hedge tree. Numerous times I've used that poor 350 to noodle down large chunks, knowing I should grab the bigger saw.
Both of these saws have been nothing but reliable, and durable.
I'm also aware of numerous arborists and professionals starting to run modded equipment. Sure many wont, but a lot are getting educated about the gains made in time on the job site and will not go back to a stock saw after running a stronger one.
I've not had any issues to date with any of the failures indicated above with modded saws. I have had some of these issues with stock saws however, but that's yet another can of worms!
Sorry Tom, not trying to pick on you, just wondered what others have to say about this subject.