Sugihara Bars & Tsumura Bars

[bigblackdodge]

Does anyone have a chart or a link where I can cross reference Bars to the Saws they fit? and Vice Versa? Thanks.

 

[watsonr]

If you tell me what saw's, I can tell you which bars go where. I've not seen a link anywhere but have the book.

 

[SawTroll]

I haven't seen any shortcuts to knowledge about this.

 

[bigblackdodge]

If you tell me what saw's, I can tell you which bars go where. I've not seen a link anywhere but have the book.

Hey Thanks Randy, I finally spent some time on ya'lls site here lately. I was just curious about bars for the saws in my Sig.

 

[bigblackdodge]

I haven't seen any shortcuts to knowledge about this.

Thanks SawTroll, I'm learning that myself. Seems those bars are built pretty well, but it's almost as if they're shrouded in secrecy

 

[SawTroll]

Thanks SawTroll, I'm learning that myself. Seems those bars are built pretty well, but it's almost as if they're shrouded in secrecy

It isn't really an issue, as long as you need bars with large Husky, medium Stihl or small Husky mounts.

However, there are issues with the Sugihara combi mounts (SV and AT).

 

[bigblackdodge]

It isn't really an issue, as long as you need bars with large Husky, medium Stihl or small Husky mounts.

However, there are issues with the Sugihara combi mounts (SV and AT).

Issues? I'm guessing you're referring to the combination mount bars? As in multiple brands/models? What kind of issues SawTroll? And Thanks for your time.



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[SawTroll]

Issues? I'm guessing you're referring to the combination mount bars? As in multiple brands/models? What kind of issues SawTroll? And Thanks for your time.

The adapters that come with the SV mount have repeatedly been reported to not work well on some saws with the large Husky mount, and the combination K095/K041 mount (AT) causes oil spillage issues on some saws with the K095 mount, most notably the Husky saws with captive bar nuts.

 

[bigblackdodge]

The adapters that come with the SV mount have repeatedly been reported to not work well on some saws with the large Husky mount, and the combination K095/K041 mount (AT) causes oil spillage issues on some saws with the K095 mount, most notably the Husky saws with captive bar nuts.

Thanks SawTroll!!!! That, I did not know about!!!


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[watsonr]

The spring type spacers are designed to ONLY work with the Stihl bar... they are NOT designed to work with the large or small Husky mount bar. I want to make sure your not confused. And you can't put the Stihl bar on a small husky saw. You can't use a large Husky bar and spacers to fit a small mount saw.

Large mount Husky fits a large mount saw... and only that mount. I don't know the numbers off the top of my head. With the correct colored spacers, the Stihl mount will fit a large Husky mount saw. You can't use the spacers on a large mount husky bar, it won't work.

With the correct colored spacers, the Stihl bar will fit various other saws... I have a sheet that gives the exact colored spacer to which saw. I'll try to get it converted to some data form to work with HTML formatting or attach it here and on the Weedeaterman site.

Small Husky mount is K095. Used to be A041 as well, being dropped for the K095 only mount.... they don't think the combo A041/K095 is worth carrying anymore. The small mount (AT style) will only fit small mount Husky and only that mount and any saw that utilizes that mount. You can't use any spacers to make it fit anything else.... and you may have a small amount of oil leakage as well, but they feel the fitment will provide enough oil to the chain to prevent any undue damage or wear. I'd like to hear if someone has any to report and feed that back to them.

I'm working on formatting the list. Hope this clears it up... what the spacers will do... work on a Stihl bar only.
Randy

 

[bigblackdodge]

The spring type spacers are designed to ONLY work with the Stihl bar... they are NOT designed to work with the large or small Husky mount bar. I want to make sure your not confused. And you can't put the Stihl bar on a small husky saw. You can't use a large Husky bar and spacers to fit a small mount saw.

Large mount Husky fits a large mount saw... and only that mount. I don't know the numbers off the top of my head. With the correct colored spacers, the Stihl mount will fit a large Husky mount saw. You can't use the spacers on a large mount husky bar, it won't work.

With the correct colored spacers, the Stihl bar will fit various other saws... I have a sheet that gives the exact colored spacer to which saw. I'll try to get it converted to some data form to work with HTML formatting or attach it here and on the Weedeaterman site.

Small Husky mount is K095. Used to be A041 as well, being dropped for the K095 only mount.... they don't think the combo A041/K095 is worth carrying anymore. The small mount (AT style) will only fit small mount Husky and only that mount and any saw that utilizes that mount. You can't use any spacers to make it fit anything else.... and you may have a small amount of oil leakage as well, but they feel the fitment will provide enough oil to the chain to prevent any undue damage or wear. I'd like to hear if someone has any to report and feed that back to them.

I'm working on formatting the list. Hope this clears it up... what the spacers will do... work on a Stihl bar only.
Randy

Thanks So Much Randy!!!! Yes, that helps me a Ton!!!!! You Da Man!!!!!


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[watsonr]

SPRING SPACER BAR MOUNT APPLICATION TO BE USED WITH A STIHL BAR ONLY

No spacer required for the following models:

Stihl:024, 026, 026P, 026 Pro, 028, 028 Super, 029, 030, 031, 032, 034, 036, 036P, 036 Pro, 036QS, 038, 038 Super Magnum, 039, 040, 041, 042, 044, 044M, 045, 046, 046M, 048, 056, 064, 066, 066 Magnum, 088, 088 Magnum, E15, E20, E220, E220Q, Farm Boss, MS260, MS260 Pro, MS270, MS270C, MS270CQS, MS280, MS280CQS, MS290, MS310, MS360, MS360 Pro, MS360QS, MS390, MS440, MS440 Magnum, MS460 Magnum, MS660, MS660M, MS880, MSE200, MSE 220


**Use the red spacers (10mm) for the following models:

Jonsered: 60, 61, 62, 66, 70, 75, 77, 80, 81, 90, 110, 111, 490, 601, 621, 625, 630, 630 Super, 630 (West Coast), 670, 670 (West Coast), 751, 801, 820, 830, 910, 920, 930, 939, 1020, 2063, 2065, 2071, 2077, 2083, 2094, 2095, 2163, 2165, 2171, 2350, CS-2186, Ripping Mill

Olympyk (OLEO-MAC): 250A, 251, 252, 254, 260, 261, 264, 272, 280, 284, 355, 460A Super, 461, 480A Super, 481, 482


**Use the yellow spacers (9mm) for the following models:

Dolmar: PS-6400, PS-7300, PS-7900, PS-9000, PS-9010FL

Husqvarna: 61, L Series: 65, 66, 70, 77; 160, 162, 181, 185, 260, 266, 268, 272, 281, 285, 288, 288XP Lite, 298, 365, 371, 372XPW, 380, 385, 385XP, 385XPG, 385XPW, 394, 395, 395XP, 395XPW, 480, 570, 1100, 2100, 2101, 3120, 3120XP, Jungle 3120

Makita: DCS 6401, DSC 6800i, DCS 7301, DCS 7901, DSC 9000, DCS 9010FL

Partner: 550, 650, 1655, 2055, 7000, P-55, P-65, P-70, P-85, P-100, R-11, R-12, R-14, R-16, R-17, R-18, R-19, R-20, R-21, R-22, R-23, R-30, R-35, R-40, R-416, R-420, R-421, R-435, R-440, S-50, S-55, S-65

PoulanPro: 415, 425, 445, 475, 505

Shindaiwa (SKD): 550, 575, 577 680, 695, 757

Solo: 603, 662, 667, 670, 680, 690, 694


**Use the bluespacers (8mm) for the following models:

AllisChalmers:95, 195, 295

Dayton: 2Z462, 2Z462A, 2Z463, 2Z561, 2Z971, 4Z251, 4Z251A, 4Z252, 4Z397, 6Z826, 7Z627

Echo: CS-60, CS-451, CS-452, CS-500, CS-501, CS-501EVL, CS-510EVL, CS-550, CS-601, CS-602, CS-60S, CST-610, CS-650, CS-660, CS-701, CS-702, CS-706, CS-750, CS-5500, CS-6700, CS-8000

Fairmont: H6200B

GreenMachine: 7600, 7700

JohnDeere: 50AV, 50V, 51SV, 55SV, 55V, 60V, 65, 65SV, 66SV, 70V, 80EV, 800V

Lumbard: AP-42, Super Lightning, Lightning 111, Comango, CS-3500, CS-3501, CS-3502, CS-3503

McCulloch: 1-10, 2-10, 3-10, 4-10, 5-10, 6-10, 7-10, 10-10, 10-10A, 55, 57, 60, 80, 555, 560, 570, 605, 610, 650, 655, 700, 800, 805, 850, 1000, 3720, CP55, CP70, CP70L, Double Eagle 50, 80, Eager Beaver 3.7, PM605, PRO MAC 55, 5700, 8200, Silver Eagle 3420, SP-60, SP-70, SP-80, SP-81, Timber Bear, Titan 50, Titan 57, Titan 70

MontgomeryWard: TMY13083, TMY24084, TMY24086, TMY24088

Poulan/Poulan Pro: 203, 245, 306, 360, 375, 361, 395, 400, 450, 3400, 3700, 3800, 3900, 4000, 4200, 4400, 4900, 5200, 5400, 5500, 6700

Redmax: G561AVS, G621AVS

Sears: 35145, 35212, 35483, 35608, 35609, 35690, 35721, 35727, 35728, 35826, 35829, 35851, 35881, 35885 Electrics ( 1983 Models Forward), 35887, 35889

Skil: 1641

Tanaka: ECS-505, ECS-506, ECS-650, ECS-655

Western Auto: 430, 3400, B013, Wizard AV-18

 

[watsonr]

Tsumura bars have a different numbering system.

I believe the spacers would work with any Stihl bar that had the 12mm slot.

 

[Jimmy lockard]

How bout a 16" for 346xp ne

 

[watsonr]

How bout a 16" for 346xp ne

Sorry, they aren't carrying any 16" bars currently... there is an 18" in 3/8 or if you wait a little longer, I've ordered 18" in .325.

 

[KenJax Tree]

The adapters that come with the SV mount have repeatedly been reported to not work well on some saws with the large Husky mount, and the combination K095/K041 mount (AT) causes oil spillage issues on some saws with the K095 mount, most notably the Husky saws with captive bar nuts.

The leak on my 550xp is minimal and not really an issue


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[bigblackdodge]

Randy what's the gauge on that 18" .325 and do you have a price for it yet?


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