Has anyone ever tested how much 32:1 vs 50:1, for example, actually affects the tune? I suspect that it would be very little. I've not tested it though.
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indiansprings
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I've always run mine at a minimum of 40:1 with Ultra, and never had an issue. Seeing on average a 180-200 saws a month going thru the shop, you can't believe how many user's half azz the mix, it's unbeliveable how thin the mix is in a majority of the saws. (No reference to the saw in the thread) Most folks just eyeball the amount of fuel they add to their jug, after buying the cheapest gas they can find. We have a big issue with gas from Casey's convienence stores, most test right at 14% ethanol and has a large amount of parafin in it, the parafin builds up on the inlet screen until it creates a lean condition, Germany figured that one out. It amazes me people will spend a ton on a good saw and then pinch pennies when feeding it. Brad hit the nail on the head, Amsoil prolly is good stuff, marketing is just nuts. I keep several test tubes on hand to show customers the quality of fuel they had in their saws, most are totally unaware if what they have done until you visualize it for them.
wigglesworth
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I just mixed up 4 gallons of Klotz, mostly just to see if I still hated it or not.
Is this an oil thread?
Is this an oil thread?
Mastermind
Work Saw Specialist
Sorta.....
I hate Klotz
I hate Klotz
indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
Brad, in my expierence, it has little effect on the tune, almost none, although I'm just going off tach readings, after mixing 50:1,40:1 and 32:1 and running it, dumping it and a new blend and firing up again, less than 150 rpm from 50 to 32:1, it's amazing what you try on a slow day. We did it with a old 025 that had 155 lbs of compression.
That's what I expected. For all intents and purposes then, you don't need to even consider it. Thanks for the quick feedback
treeslayer2003
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I totally agree with 40-1 or richer, I been doing that for over 20 years. but what can y'all tell us about the synthetic oils? I don't think it matters on brand long as it ain;t some cheap stuff. how is synthetic better than regular?
Generally, it burns cleaner, leading to fewer carbon deposits in the exhaust port, cylinder head, and piston crown. It's also simply a better lubricant, in most cases.
indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
Can't speak for other brands, but the difference between Stihl Ultra (synthetic) and Stihl orange bottle (dino) is Ultra has 20% more lubricants, 40% more detergent and a corrosion inhibitor to protect the brass in the carby. Nothing but synthetic for mine, no cycle shops for 30-40 miles so Ultra it is.
treeslayer2003
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does it have stabilizers like the stihl orange bottle? what y'all sayin so far makes sense. I have had such good luck with the orange bottle it hard to change, I have two of the early 044s and they good as new after used commercial since new. I realize gas has changed.
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Mastermind
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Did I mention that I use Belray H1R? 
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Great stuff and readily available. I can buy small containers locally, or easily order larger ones online.
treeslayer2003
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yes you did Randy. I haven't forgotten you sir, just been hectic here.
indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
Would sure give it a try if I could buy it off the shelf locally, what's a good source for the Belray, Randy? Any site sponsors peddle it?
wigglesworth
Booned
I did too last time I tried it. But I had a quart laying around....
Mastermind
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indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
You should just add a 6 pack with every saw you do, just tack on the price, get em hooked on it right off the bat, and it would make sure the initial usage would at least have the good stuff.
Trx250r180
Saw polisher
i am skeered of 50 to 1 now ,this saw still had 225 psi with this piston and still started and cut wood ok ,must have cold siezed at one time is all i can think of
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