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I like knotless rigging as well fast and easy but I still go back to knots for the big wood. Yep windy and rainy here too.
Here's your chance to join the elite tree services: Do It All Machine I can't quite swing it right now but I'll probably regret it the rest of my life.
would this be a good choice of biner? For both 1/2 and 5/8 line?
Tree Stuff - ISC Off-Set D Steel Carabiner
So for this Knotless rigging....do you leave the biner tied onto the work rope all the time? If you take it on and off is a bowline thats girth hitched to the biner the best way to go? I am wondering how tight that knot will end up being.I am not worried about a bowline but Can u get a double or triple fishermans knot untied after loading it up like that? The thing (one of em) I worry about is that at some point that biner is gonna get stuck in a crotch, or even stuck on a stub, or some dumb **** that a bare end wonuldnt have snagged. I am big on muti crotching and often switch ends of the rope will working a tree so I gotta wonder.
Yes, most likely you will be going on just fine for while with the knotless rigging when all the sudden... DUMB **** HAPPENING! DUMB **** HAPPENING! DANGER WILL ROBININSON, DUMB **** IS HAPPENING!
talked to my morons this morning, the guy that cut the maple didnt like the fact he was getting a week off and paying for the damages and tried to ague with me about it that was the iceing on the cake, i grabbed him up by the collar and showed him the door to the shop for the last time. Kinda ashame that a guy with six years of experiance would be such a fool. As for my other guy that was there he i dont believe was to blame, he is primarily one of my truck drivers with minimal cutting experiance and was at the truck unchaining the loader when sam dropped the tree. Decided not to fire him but had a long talk about teamwork and although he is a drive there is no reason why he cant be out spotting a cutter in those situations.
Got my insurance guys quote this morning too, no structural damage on barn or boat, only cosmetic, total cost: 2159 bucks, not as bad as i thought but if anything like this happens again i'll prob go postal. Not only did it take off my bottom line for the quarter it put a blemish on my flawless reccord and i cant fix that
would this be a good choice of biner? For both 1/2 and 5/8 line?
Tree Stuff - ISC Off-Set D Steel Carabiner
would this be a good choice of biner? For both 1/2 and 5/8 line?
Tree Stuff - ISC Off-Set D Steel Carabiner
well thats reassuring :msp_unsure:.
Well you said it first.
I first started with knotless. Not anymore. Nothing reall bad happened, just to much dumchit to deal with, like you mentioned, but there is more, I don't even wanna go into. Some obvious stuff but also some not so obvious stuff... like the newbie running hisself through the chipper cause he clipped a sling to his belt loop?
Even if you are just putting a snap at the end of the rig line there are things you may have to consider. At least put a plastic thimble between semi-permanant rope/ snap connection. That's what I have used, just a double locking rope snap. Steel. Its good to use them as them as the most inexpensive link suitable, the gates take a beating. One day you'll be standing up there wacthing them run for pliers, wrenches, hacksaws and saying " can't we just cut the rope?" See? Dumb ****.
Yer crazy ass is gonna break it quickly, just forget about. Maybe if you were lowering a few small ones outta a forty foot norway maple but....yer not.
Good food for thought. Esp considering the best reason that I, personally, can think of to go knotless is that I am hoping to get around the frusteration of watching a GM untie a knot. I thought it may speed that up. I have a good crew though, i think, I would probably just get frusterated about somthing different anyway..lol. I need to remember somtimes that just because a guy cant untie a knot as fast as me it doesnt nessaryly mean he is to slow..... Slings and a biner or 2 would still be very useful at times, esp on a conifer. I have done multi limb lower before on pines n firs but i rigged up 3 short pieces of 1/2 inch and tied those to a bowline. But I was still tieing each end and had to wait for it each time. Faster than one at a time but not as fast as slings would be.
I may be missing something here, or perhaps it's my inexperience lol. I use a steel biner tied on with a bowline 99 percent of the time. I have dismantled some big oaks with that setup. I have NEVER had a break or an issue while doing so. It's way faster to throw a cpl wraps on a limb, and click in rather than tying new knots every time. I see absolutely nothing wrong with using this set up all day, all week long.
Yes, most likely you will be going on just fine for while with the knotless rigging when all the sudden... DUMB **** HAPPENING! DUMB **** HAPPENING! DANGER WILL ROBININSON, DUMB **** IS HAPPENING!
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