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Coffeetree is dioecious - meaning there are male and female trees. So no beans could mean a male tree. (or female with no males around to pollinate)

( @Del_ beat me to it!)
 
Dahmer said:
No Kentucky Coffee Tree here in PA so I would have gone with something in the red oak family.
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Yeah...my first reaction was "oak"...but no prominent rays as Oak would have, so ruled that out. That top pic looks about the right color for something in the red oak family...but bark that scaly would be more likely in the white oak family. Of course, not an oak, so moot point! As I scrolled onto the other pictures, that bark is pretty unique.

Kentucky Coffeetree is listed as native to the entire eastern US. I didn't see it/we didn't learn it at Virginia Tech. We have a "relatively" fair amount of it in NW Ohio (like I see it growing naturally in a woods maybe 10 times a year - and that is usually on really shallow limestone bedrock). It is a good tree for alkaline soils. Could be used more in as a street tree (male cultivars!). Probably the biggest problem is that they are kinda homely as young trees...just a few stout twigs sticking up there.
 
Pretty tough to ID those dried/shriveled leaves. Maybe hawthorn. Maybe one of the viburnums? Not from the KY Coffee...and they don't cast doubt on that ID. Cotteetree leaflets are tiny and non-descript. You have more luck finding the rachis (rachises, rachi???) Than the leaflets.
 
Happened to be working next door do a KY Coffeetree today. Here is what the ground looked like. All those little twiggy looking things are the rachises. Didn't see any leaflets around.

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No it isn't.

Wood color looks right for elm (and Kentucky Coffee...as they are similar in color), but bark is wrong and and twigs are way off - would be very fine twigs on an elm tree. There are rachises all over the ground in the bottom right of the last picture of the first post and on the left side of the stump in post #11 (last pick @Marshy posted).

I don't really care/no need for me to argue, I'm just trying to help as I was asked.

If you get a really clean cut of the end grain, you can look at the pattern of the pores. The latewood pores in Ulmus are very distinct in how wavy the pattern is. There may be some tylosis in the early wood of Ulmus, but not Gymnocladus.

https://www.wood-database.com/red-elm/

https://www.wood-database.com/coffeetree/
 
ATH said:
No it isn't.

Wood color looks right for elm (and Kentucky Coffee...as they are similar in color), but bark is wrong and and twigs are way off - would be very fine twigs on an elm tree. There are rachises all over the ground in the bottom right of the last picture of the first post and on the left side of the stump in post #11 (last pick @Marshy posted).

I don't really care/no need for me to argue, I'm just trying to help as I was asked.

If you get a really clean cut of the end grain, you can look at the pattern of the pores. The latewood pores in Ulmus are very distinct in how wavy the pattern is. There may be some tylosis in the early wood of Ulmus, but not Gymnocladus.

https://www.wood-database.com/red-elm/

https://www.wood-database.com/coffeetree/
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Ok you might be right about that but them rachises I think come from the walnut trees surrounding this tree .... and we have several other trees here in this area that several locals are saying are coffee trees ...???
 

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