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As far as the rear handle goes.
3400,3700,3800,375,385,395,4000 all use the same rear handle with different colors.
Then you have the craftsman versions also.

He has one of each flavor...Poulan and Craftsman. So do I and they look identical to me without knowing any details of the possible subtle differences between them..., if any.
 
He has one of each flavor...Poulan and Craftsman. So do I and they look identical to me without knowing any details of the possible subtle differences between them..., if any.

The only fly in the ointment, so to speak, might be the early 3400's, which had a smaller bolt/screw that went through the rear handle anti-vibe mounts. Had smaller holes and a thin tube that went between them. Unlike MOST of the later saws, and all the rest in that series, had the larger screws with the hex shaped spacer between them. Other than that, they should all interchange. On that 4000 saw of many parts that I put together for a friend, was such a thing. I just drilled out the holes, and used the later style bolts. :D

Gregg,
 
Hi, all.

I picked this up a couple of weeks ago, and was hoping to get some more info on it. It is an Allis Chalmers model 85 blade saw. It is NOS, and I have all of the paperwork, box, and all of the literature that came with it when new. It also came with the original receipt from 3/22/1974. I posted this in the general chainsaw forum, and I was told that I would probably get a better response on the Poulan thread.

I was wondering if anyone knew how many of them were produced, and what years they were manufactured with the Allis Chalmers name on them. Any info would be greatly appreciated, and I will include some pictures for everyone to see.View attachment 321109View attachment 321110

Sweet!!!!

Also - drool, drool... :clap:
 
The only fly in the ointment, so to speak, might be the early 3400's, which had a smaller bolt/screw that went through the rear handle anti-vibe mounts. Had smaller holes and a thin tube that went between them. Unlike MOST of the later saws, and all the rest in that series, had the larger screws with the hex shaped spacer between them. Other than that, they should all interchange. On that 4000 saw of many parts that I put together for a friend, was such a thing. I just drilled out the holes, and used the later style bolts. :D

Gregg,

Here are the suspects. Not quite as nice as described, but evidently salvageable and worth five bucks for both of em to the guy. Just need to scrounge up a few parts starting with the handles and one also needs a fuel tank.

Just to be clear, I'm not scrounging for parts here....just trying to determine exactly what saws he had and which other variations he can scrounge parts from on his own.

'Preciate the help on his behalf.

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The only fly in the ointment, so to speak, might be the early 3400's, which had a smaller bolt/screw that went through the rear handle anti-vibe mounts. Had smaller holes and a thin tube that went between them. Unlike MOST of the later saws, and all the rest in that series, had the larger screws with the hex shaped spacer between them. Other than that, they should all interchange. On that 4000 saw of many parts that I put together for a friend, was such a thing. I just drilled out the holes, and used the later style bolts. :D

Gregg,

Did that too.
 
Here are the suspects. Not quite as nice as described, but evidently salvageable and worth five bucks for both of em to the guy. Just need to scrounge up a few parts starting with the handles and one also needs a fuel tank.

Just to be clear, I'm not scrounging for parts here....just trying to determine exactly what saws he had and which other variations he can scrounge parts from on his own.

'Preciate the help on his behalf.


You have a 3800, that like Gregg said uses the newer style handle, you also have a later model 3400 or 3800 clone. Again uses the newer handle. All the top covers are the same so you should be all set. And again like Gregg said you can use an older 3400 handle, just drill it out.
Did he give you 10' of tygon with the 3400 too?
 
Did he give you 10' of tygon with the 3400 too?

Hahaha! Yeah, there's a new fuel line going in on the one. He just has all of his excess wrapped around the cylinder so he doesn't misplace it. And they're not my saws, but a friend's who sent me the pics for some clarification on their identity and the handle thing. I'm just hoping to help him out by obtaining a few details from you guys to keep him on track.
 
Here are the suspects. Not quite as nice as described, but evidently salvageable and worth five bucks for both of em to the guy. Just need to scrounge up a few parts starting with the handles and one also needs a fuel tank.

Just to be clear, I'm not scrounging for parts here....just trying to determine exactly what saws he had and which other variations he can scrounge parts from on his own.

'Preciate the help on his behalf.


Those appear to be the same vintage. :D Parts should interchange with all them Poulan/Craftsman saws. The only other thing I can think to mention when it comes to a very early 3400, besides the rear handle bolt setup. The early ones also had a different style cap on the oil fill. I don't think they are interchangeable. Other than that, they just added more webbing in the magnesium castings on the later versions. There sure aren't many parts that won't swap between all these saws in that series. Makes it very simple . :D

Gregg,
 
I found a tillotson cross reference manual from 1975 and found 2 carbs that were offered with the poulan 245s and 306s both are part number 530003706 they are hs30a, and hs23a I have found a hs30 I bought with a bunch of other parts, the carb doesn't have a governor like the hs59 does. I rebuild it and see how my one of 306s like it just thought I share the info with the other poulan guys out there.
 
In the IPL for the PP4620AVHD (found here) it shows a part (#9 on page 1) called "Insulator-Heat", which looks as though it goes into the exhaust port. What is this, and is it necessary? I see it in the PP295 parts list as well. I did a quick search, and saw that someone building up a Wild Thing said they threw away the heat insulator.

Scott in Penfield NY
 
Those appear to be the same vintage. :D Parts should interchange with all them Poulan/Craftsman saws. The only other thing I can think to mention when it comes to a very early 3400, besides the rear handle bolt setup. The early ones also had a different style cap on the oil fill. I don't think they are interchangeable. Other than that, they just added more webbing in the magnesium castings on the later versions. There sure aren't many parts that won't swap between all these saws in that series. Makes it very simple . :D

Gregg,
I think all the 3700's also had the small screw rear handles.
 
In the IPL for the PP4620AVHD (found here) it shows a part (#9 on page 1) called "Insulator-Heat", which looks as though it goes into the exhaust port. What is this, and is it necessary? I see it in the PP295 parts list as well. I did a quick search, and saw that someone building up a Wild Thing said they threw away the heat insulator.

Scott in Penfield NY

Yes I have removed them on my 295's that I have.
 
I can try comparing the PN for recoils, but if they're not the same color, or if they have a different sticker on them, won't they have a different number? I just compared the IPLs and if they used the exact same artwork for the recoil assembly, I assumed they'd be the same, but no way to be certain.

I don't assume a "label reference" to Home Depot or Lowes, but I know that, for example, there's a Lincoln welder with an "HD" after it's model name, that is only sold at Home Depot. A welding supplier that offers Lincoln welders can claim the best price on "this model" without worrying about the local Home Depot, because "they sell a different model." In fact it's the same model, but the model number is different to "save" the more expensive retailers from direct price comparisons with the "Big Box" stores. The IPLs do show detail differences, I just thinks it's more than a coincidence that the similar models are "L" and "HD".

Here's a pic of a broken recoil housing from a Farmhand 2900 - notice no metal ring in the "rope hole":
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And here's a similar Craftsman, but with the metal ring:

Did the Farmhand just lose the ring, or did it not come with one, thus allowing the rope damage?

Scott in Penfield NY
Bet the metal ring came out when the recoil got cracked.
 
I think all the 3700's also had the small screw rear handles.

Except for at least one...:D I'm pretty sure this is original, I never changed any thing on this one except the bar. I did take the brace/chain catcher bracket off of this and put it on a 4000, because it had better paint, this one is kinda ugly.

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Gregg,
 
Love that bar!

Bob, I'm not sure if that bar is what would have come on the 3700 or not, originally. My 3400 that I bought new in 1986 had one like that, only in 18". The one in the pic is a 20". It might have had one of the better bars, that say Poulan Sprocket Nose on them. Them "banana nose" bars worked well enough, but once they wore some, you couldn't flip them over.

Gregg,
 

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