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I recently bought a Husky 455 Rancher, even after reading alot of the comments on this forum. Most people seem to think the plastic crankcase is a big deal with this saw. I recently contacted a Husky technician regarding this. He said it is indeed a composite polymer (high grade plastic if you will) and said it is used because it handles heat well, is a bit cheaper to use than magnesium and will flex a little (designed to do so) if needed, whereas magnesium will crack before it flexes. He also went on to say that this composite polymer works to a better advantage than magnesium in most cases. They must know a thing or two about saw construction, more than most of us will ever know. After all, they are the most preferred brand in the U.S. the last time I read.

Think about it, over the years products have became lighter, stronger overall and more sturdy because of people thinking outside the box and using different materials and construction methods. Now I'm not going to claim that all crankcases or other components will end up being plastic, but I bet as time goes on you will see more composites being used in place of metal. Lighter, stronger, faster, etc. is the focus for most.

Another thing I hear about the 455 Rancher is it's too heavy for its output. Well, IMO if 2 pounds of excess weight is going to encourage someone to stay away from this fine saw then maybe they don't need to be lugging one around anyway. In that case, get an electric saw and be happy. Everybody expects to get maximum performance and longevity in a cheaper and lighter package. Well, good luck there. Later!


BTW, I'm not a reincarnated CoveredInSap. I'm just a happy 455 Rancher owner that has experienced great performance without spending an arm and a leg to do it.
 
I wish you the best of luck with the 455

I personally would not give a plug nickel for a new plastic saw.. Crankcase wise atleast.
 
Well, IMO if 2 pounds of excess weight is going to encourage someone to stay away from this fine saw then maybe they don't need to be lugging one around anyway

When 2 pounds is 17% of total weight, it's a lot.

The durability of plastic is evident in other applications such as Glock pistols. On the other hand, people who repair the saws day in and day out can often see design problems occasional users like me don't see. I don't think I'll ever see a problem with plastic, professional arborists might.

Full Disclosure: I have 1 plastic saw and 1 magnesium saw.
 
i bought the wife a 455 rancher when she expressed an interest in limbing and bucking alongside me (which lasted all of 10 minutes) and my main complaints with the saw do not stem from the plastic crankcase . . .it is that damn Poulan wild thing looking switch and choke set up . . . cheesy and fragile . . .as well as the weight and output. . .my 20 year old Stihl 028 WB spanks the 455 and weighs less to boot.
 
Good Choice!

I recently bought a Husky 455 Rancher, even after reading alot of the comments on this forum. Most people seem to think the plastic crankcase is a big deal with this saw. I recently contacted a Husky technician regarding this. He said it is indeed a composite polymer (high grade plastic if you will) and said it is used because it handles heat well, is a bit cheaper to use than magnesium and will flex a little (designed to do so) if needed, whereas magnesium will crack before it flexes. He also went on to say that this composite polymer works to a better advantage than magnesium in most cases. They must know a thing or two about saw construction, more than most of us will ever know. After all, they are the most preferred brand in the U.S. the last time I read.

Think about it, over the years products have became lighter, stronger overall and more sturdy because of people thinking outside the box and using different materials and construction methods. Now I'm not going to claim that all crankcases or other components will end up being plastic, but I bet as time goes on you will see more composites being used in place of metal. Lighter, stronger, faster, etc. is the focus for most.

Another thing I hear about the 455 Rancher is it's too heavy for its output. Well, IMO if 2 pounds of excess weight is going to encourage someone to stay away from this fine saw then maybe they don't need to be lugging one around anyway. In that case, get an electric saw and be happy. Everybody expects to get maximum performance and longevity in a cheaper and lighter package. Well, good luck there. Later!


BTW, I'm not a reincarnated CoveredInSap. I'm just a happy 455 Rancher owner that has experienced great performance without spending an arm and a leg to do it.


I think it is great you are pleased with your choice of chainsaw. Money well spent. I am sure your saw choice will serve you well.

Yet, I don't follow your reasoning on plastic, not the purchase itself. You mentioned plastic was lighter, the 455 is not a light saw for it's class. Weight is not the sole consideration for most buyers when purchasing a saw but I do think a majority place heavy consideration on weight.

You spoke of strength, I didn't see any information the plastic case is stronger. If a flexible case is a good idea; then wouldn't high end saws exhibit the same characteristic?

Like Jim said plastics/polymers have their place, Glock pistols are second to none, very light weight, durable, resistant to weather and chemical damage. Importantly less expensive to purchase AND manufacture.

I suspect the plastic case has more to do with price/manufacture costs than performance. That said, I am not saying your choice of saws isn't a good purchase. Heck, I have saws with plastic cases. I just think they are there as a cost savings step.

But, who knows, maybe in the future, most saws will have a composite case.

Regardless, welcome and don't back away from your point of view. Different views keep thinks alive!:rock:
 
I HAD a 455 rancher for a couple of months. For a home owner/ranch saw it would probably do just fine. For cutting fire wood 4-5 days a week, felling trees, limbing etc. its just built for it. (I.E plastic covers/handles etc) EXAMPLE. Your cutting down a tree, something goes wrong and hits your saw. Instead of having a bent handle, you now have a two piece handle. Stock the engine is something to be desired, but a muffler mod. does help it alot. We're not (atleast i'm not ) trying to knock down your saw saying that " those saws are junk" but for people who use there saws all the time, it's just not designed to be an every day user in my opinion. If you take care of it though, it should last just as long as a pro saw. But weight though, i have to agree 2 lbs. is a fair amount of extra weight to be throwing around.
 
The only problem we have seen with plastic, ("engineered material"), was on a couple of 350's. What happened was that the muffler bolts loosened up and exhaust gasses burned through the crankcase. Seen it just twice out of many saws. (BTW the owners manual states that the end user should check the tightness of those bolts occasionally) So, I don't think the fear of plastic is really all that justified, at least not for the occasional user. There is no way to be sure how well a plastic crankcase would hold up on a 575/441 class saw.

Will plastic show up on the bigger pro saws? From a marketing standpoint, I don't think that any company could get away with that at the present time. Just look at the way plastic is received on this site as an example. I prefer metal crankcases in my own saws even though I haven't seen any real evidence that I should avoid plastic, so I'm just like everyone else.
 
You said it best at the end of your post that you are happy with it! I have never run or seen a Husky 455 being used! I am no pro but heat my home with wood and after all I live up north compared to most on here! I own a hole bunch of saw's and try to use them all as often as I can. I just like chainsaw's what can I say I don't care what they are made of so long as they feel good and work for me! I do like old Mac's as collecting goes and now I am looking for old Stihl's. But as long as someone keeps care of there equipment I have found they all last and never give any problems. Some are easier to work on that is the only thing I can think of as far as the vertical split case goes.
 
where's the 2 lb comparison coming from??

I just wondered what saw in this class are we comparing that ways 2 lbs less? The MS290 is every bit has heavy and bulky. Both saws are aimed at the weekend/occasional user and seem to work just fine. Sawin redneck uses a plastic cased 350 and loves it. I think the reason the 455 weighs more is because of the strat engine design--correct me if I'm wrong.
 
I just wondered what saw in this class are we comparing that weighs 2 lbs less? The MS290 is every bit has heavy and bulky. Both saws are aimed at the weekend/occasional user and seem to work just fine. Sawin redneck uses a plastic cased 350 and loves it. I think the reason the 455 weighs more is because of the strat engine design--correct me if I'm wrong.

To a professional logger that uses a saw 8 hours at a time 5 days a week with few breaks 2 pounds is significant. To a homeowner probably not. If you like the saw what difference what others think? To some on this site if not Stihl 361 yours is not the correct saw in this class, but the decision is yours. Enjoy your saw. Cut safely. And ignore the nay sayers!
 
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455 Rancher

I also have a Rancher,it runs very well! A couple of other saws in the arsenal are the 350 and a 372xp. I can honestly say that the 350 with a modded muffler and the smaller chain,cuts just about like my stock rancher pulling a 3/8 chain and an 18". I am not even going to mention the 372xp as this saw needs no introductions. I love all three saws, but believe it or not, most times I reach for the 350.
 
I also have a Rancher,it runs very well! A couple of other saws in the arsenal are the 350 and a 372xp. I can honestly say that the 350 with a modded muffler and the smaller chain,cuts just about like my stock rancher pulling a 3/8 chain and an 18". I am not even going to mention the 372xp as this saw needs no introductions. I love all three saws, but believe it or not, most times I reach for the 350.
sounds like a HAPPY HVA OWNER:rockn: :rockn: :rockn:
 
I just wondered what saw in this class are we comparing that ways 2 lbs less? The MS290 is every bit has heavy and bulky. Both saws are aimed at the weekend/occasional user and seem to work just fine. Sawin redneck uses a plastic cased 350 and loves it. I think the reason the 455 weighs more is because of the strat engine design--correct me if I'm wrong.

I also have a Rancher,it runs very well! A couple of other saws in the arsenal are the 350 and a 372xp. I can honestly say that the 350 with a modded muffler and the smaller chain,cuts just about like my stock rancher pulling a 3/8 chain and an 18". I am not even going to mention the 372xp as this saw needs no introductions. I love all three saws, but believe it or not, most times I reach for the 350.

The 350 has aprox. .2hp less than the 455, but the 455 weighs about 2 pounds more. The 455 is not a strato motor.
The 455 might have a bit more tourqe, but for the weight, I'll grab the 460 and be done!!!! I need to weigh them, but the 346 even feels heavier than the 350. I'd be very hard pressed to sell the 350, but if you are happy with the 455, that's all that matters!!! Enjoy you're saw!
 
To a professional logger that uses a saw 8 hours at a time 5 days a week with few breaks 2 pounds is significant. !

That's why I specified "in it's(455) class". That's also why Husky calls it Rancher not Logger.
 
To some on this site if not Stihl 361 yours is not the correct saw in this class, but the decision is yours. Enjoy your saw. Cut safely. And ignore the nay sayers!
Hear! Hear!

I made up the 2 pound number, vaguely comparing it to my 350.
 
Most here are professionals and rank saws by CCs/weight not use. The 455, 460 (your saw punched out) , and even my 359 are weighed against the 357 and MS361, both $600 saws. You said you read the threads so you should be aware of this. 8 million people will sing the praises of the Stihl MS361 and thump you for not purchasing one. You only have to make yourself happy. If you don't already have PPE I suggest you get some. If you are looking for support for your homeowner saw here, it will be small. Be content with your purchase, ignore the make, model, class bias, and cut safely.
 
Who are you trying to convince with this post? Me? or yourself? I hope you have better luck with your Husqvarna than I have. My service technician said the piston and cylinder in my 359 burned up because I didn't "shake the can" before I refueld it! As far as I'm concerned this saw should be avoided. Did they tell you some of electrolux... err. I mean Husqvarnas are actually manufactured by Poulan?? I didn't think so. So you can always take what these technicians, or engineers or whoever say with a grain of salt. I don't need no more stinking "convincing"
 
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Did they tell you some of electrolux... err. I mean Husqvarnas are actually manufactured by Poulan?? I didn't think so.
I think there are only two Husky models made by Poulon, the 137 and 142. I'm also pretty sure they're made to Husky's specs and not just orange Poulon's. It's to bad you had problems with your 359. I've never ran or owned one. From everything I've read and been told, they seem to be a pretty good saw.
 
Who are you trying to convince with this post? Me? or yourself? I hope you have better luck with your Husqvarna than I have. My service technician said the piston and cylinder in my 359 burned up because I didn't "shake the can" before I refueld it! As far as I'm concerned this saw should be avoided. Did they tell you some of electrolux... err. I mean Husqvarnas are actually manufactured by Poulan?? I didn't think so. So you can always take what these technicians, or engineers or whoever say with a grain of salt. I don't need no more stinking "convincing"

Its not husqvarnas fault if the dealer is ignorant and comes up with bull???? like that... BUT in 80% of cases with burnt up P&C the reason is improper mix/straight gas, on some cases its airleak... But no warranty covers user mistakes...
 
sawinredneck;663326 The 455 is not a strato motor. [/QUOTE said:
The 455/460 actually is a strato motor design, and that is what is to blame for the extra weight. Same as the weight gain of the 575 over the 372.
 
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