404” saw chain?

[Huskybill]

i ordered two different loops of 404 saw chain. One loop has the normal 404 longer teeth while the other has smaller teeth like 3/8” chain. Is there two different styles of 404 chain? I asked the seller a saw shop and he said no that he’s not aware of. Any Thoughts?

 

[cus_deluxe]

post a picture, but if i ordered 2 of the same chains and received two different ones id be taking it up with the dealer.

 

[Ted Jenkins]

If you order a roll for sure all 100' will be the same. I figure if I get tired of cutting wood I will have at least 500' of loops to sell which might finance some new sails or something. Thanks

 

[Huskybill]

There seems to be a micro 404 chain?

 

[Philbert]

The pitch is only the distance between rivets (3 rivets/2), and focuses on the drive links meshing with the sprockets. After that, the teeth can be any size or shap.

Do both chains fit your drive sprockets?

Philbert

 

[Huskybill]

Both chains are 404 just one set of teeth are shorter. Micro 404. I might try that on my 480 husky, everything from 480 up gets 404 chain. My 285’s, 298, 2100’s, 2101. they’ll be the sons saws

 

[Philbert]

Both chains are 404 just one set of teeth are shorter.

Do the shorter teeth cut a narrower kerf too? Be interesting to hear how they perform differently.

Philbert

 

[Huskybill]

Next time we have a cut off testing the ported 2100 we’ll fire up the 480 with that new 404 micro chain. I just ordered some huztl 404/063” chisel chain I hope it’s not the small tooth. I like the longer tooth of the chisel standard chain it lasts longer.

Was I was logging decades ago we only had 404/050ga in LP chisel chain and cp I think was chipper. Times have changed I need a college degree on learning different chains now. Round file, square file, chipper, chisel, micro 404, pro chain, home owner, casual cutter chain, ect.

 

[Robin Wood]

I think there was a time .404 micro was made, maybe 80s or 90s.
I've seen some on old model saws that had the original b&c combo, they can be filed with 3/16.
7/32 will hit the weird bulge on the bottom part of gullet

 

[Brent Nowell]

I’ve always wondered if .404 has teeth that are sharpened with a file larger than 7/32?

 

[Robin Wood]

I’ve always wondered if .404 has teeth that are sharpened with a file larger than 7/32?

No the usual .404 calls for 7/32 and it sits perfectly in the gullet

 

[Brent Nowell]

I found 7/32 sits in my semi chisel perfectly in the gullet, but the full chisel requires the file to be raised and the fillet done seperatly. I don’t mean to highjack this thread but is there such a thing as high and low profile cutting teeth for semi chisel?

 

[FlyingDutchman]

The micro would be nice for really long bars, would free up some power, I'd think.

 

[Huskybill]

I use a 1/4” round file on 404” chain, to open up the gullet for chip clearance. Then I use a file n guide with a 7/32” round file to sharpen the top of the tooth. This gives the top edge of the tooth a 7/32” radious. It takes time to first do it right then just a pass of the 7/32” file to keep the upper edge sharp.

You have to try this. When done correctly the tooth looking at it from the side should have a hook look to it, trust me try it. I first tried it during speed cutting at the fair, then I tried it in the hardwoods cutting firewood.

My larger cc saws will run 404 saw chain. It lasts longer because the teeth are longer.

 

[Brent Nowell]

I dunno bill, I did this freehand with a 7/32. I usually do my actual sharpening first then second pass press down and in aggressively to clean out the gullet. I think this is a prime example of a good gullet.

 

[Huskybill]

I prefer the gullet done with the 1/4” file once the space between the rakers and teeth is opened up enough to angle a 1/4” file in there some chains have smaller openings. I want that gullet fully open for the chip exhaust. It’s going to rain big chips.

I feel bad for the trees I’m going to raise hell.

I open up the gullet on my husky 240sg 325 LP chain too. When I make a straight cut in 2”-3”saplings if I do it quick enough the tree is in the air for a split second, enough time for me to pull the saw back out of the cut. The saw doesn’t bind at all. The tree monetary hangs in the air. I run a 9 pin rim in the 240sg.