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60cc Awesomeness, who is king?

Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by Overkill338, Oct 22, 2018.

  1. SmellyPirateHooker

    SmellyPirateHooker ArboristSite Guru

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    I'd just put the 24" bar and go up a tooth or so driver. I mean if I keep going up in driver till my 620 is working as hard as that 362 my chain will surely melt off.
     
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  2. Frank Rizzo

    Frank Rizzo Custom Saw Modification 241c-441c,660 specialist

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    Never keep up with that 362c in a million years ! You can run a 32” and make one cut ... I’ll put on an 18” and buzz thru 1/2 and walk around to the other end and do the other end and STIHL have time to smoke a cigar and drink an ale before you finish lol !!!
     
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    I don't believe you. I'm looking at that chip production. Screw that high reving sound, chip production is cutting speed. One size up driver is all I'd probably need, though I'm sure at sub 24" bar lengths I could easily go 2, maybe more. And Im doing that, dropping bar size and continually upping the driver till it is under load. Chain speed is everything given the same chain specs. How you get to it is up to you. Your saw is already under load. Good luck
     
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    And then, just maybe it will get cylinder porting. LoL
     
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    CHOP...CHOP... BANG...BANG...

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    Dream on Frank
     
  6. Frank Rizzo

    Frank Rizzo Custom Saw Modification 241c-441c,660 specialist

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    Porting will help ... IF the guy doing the work knows what he is doing
     
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    Absolutely, which isn't necessarily me. I mean just about every saw will like a gasket delete with the associated port correction. Maybe even widen them up if possible. This is what I usually do to my saws, but to really gain you need to play with a few jugs of a perticular saw. You know, figure out what that exact model needs to run. I'm not that guy beings this is my first 620, but I have been talking to someone who does and has figured out what they like. I'd be a fool to think I could do better, so when it's time he will get my beloved 620. It will be the first engine I've ever let someone else mod for me, saw, car, truck and bike included.
     
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    Frank Rizzo Custom Saw Modification 241c-441c,660 specialist

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    Yah .... the echo 620 is a great bang for the buck ... but when compared to a 362c it falls short .... the 620 has 4.02hp the STIHL 4.69 for the same 59cc displacement; when ported its gets worse for the echo - I’ve never done a 620 but can get 20% + increase the Stihls ... 4.69 (.2) = 5.62hp ... the Echo 4.02 (.2) = 4.82hp .... you will simply NOT outcut another Saw in the same wood with same bar/and chain , gearing giving up .8hp (or better) ; I’m not even bringing up the “dog it in factor “ either ! The Echo is a fine Saw for the money I agree ! If you’re trying to pay the bills , then run ported STIHLS !
     
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    Frank,

    I am going to again extend you a personal invitation to come show your saws & chains for everyone to run & to see, live & in person at the Upstate NY GTG in May of this year, 2019, in Greenwich, NY.

    The Cutting Edge will be hosting it.

    A Great Event & it would be nice for you to show us how to do it with a saw.

    This would be the perfect opportunity to shut those nay sayers down.

    I Hope to see you there.


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  10. Frank Rizzo

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    Don’t know if I’m gonna show you “how to do it with a Saw “ lol but by then I hope to have my piped 660 completed and ready to rip ! JS Bertrand is doing the pipe so it shouldn’t lack in the HP department ! He is , after all , a world -record holder
     
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    I’ll see you there.


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  12. Frank Rizzo

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    We shall see sir
     
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    It's more then 4.02, I forget the number but it's just a hair off the Husky a Stihl if it means anything.
    Come on frank, as any kind of engine modder you should know peak HP is only one aspect of many that makes an engine powerful or not. How fast it's HP drops off on either side of the peak, torque and how broad that is as well. Put up or shut up, 32" bar no internal mods noodling in hardwood. It doesn't even have to be you, find a video, I don't care. Cut the talk. It's not working, not with this guy. I'll help you out, there is no vid of either the 562xp or the 362c with a 32" bar/stock cylinder. I've looked, rather then just started talking ****. There's cylinder ported 562xp videos in soft wood, same with the Stihls . Keep talking or be of use.
     
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    Hell at this point I'd even settle for your modded saw with a 32" in hardwood. The way it's working in that vid I don't think it's going to do well. Maybe you should look real hard for that advertised horsepower, might be hiding under something.
     
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    The top of the line in 60cc chainsaws to me is the Husqvarna 266SE or XP. This saw became the main stay in my stable with a 18”/20” bar.
     
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    After searching many sources (as echo does not list hp ) the figure I obtained was 3kw which translates to 4.02 hp ... My question to you is why do you desire a 32” bar in a 59cc stock (?) chainsaw regardless of brand ?
     
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    Yes ! For larger wood (32”) use larger power head (70+ to 90+ cc) !
     
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    562xp with 32” bar cutting West Coast timber
     
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    For larger wood and bars from 20”, 24”, 30” up I had the 2100. Sometimes I put a 16” bar on the 2100(99 cc) and destroy some 14” oak trees when it’s ten degrees out.
     
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    Woody harrelson What we’ve got here is failure to communicate.

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    Bahahahahahahahaha! Imagine fabz and flabz at the same gtg! Fabz will never show, I will bet our mommas life on it. I will be there tho:chop:
     
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