Small saw you decide.

[WoodChuck'r]

Nice pics, good vid. Prices are definitely different, although I got my Ryobi for $45, and my 211 for $185 total.

Both saws sound, rev, accelerate, and cut just like both of mine. The 211 has that higher 441-ish sound, and the Ryobi-Wan-Kenobi has that deeper growl.

Our saws seem to be tuned exactly the same as well. If I didn't know any better I'd think you guys were running my saws.

:greenchainsaw:

 

[rms61moparman]

JMO


Dolmar 401….. The only viable option on your list for a light weight professional saw....

What a great line for a signature!


Mike

 

[WoodChuck'r]

If you don't mind telling...what was the price difference between the Stihl and the Ryobi saws?

The Ryobi is factory reconditioned and sells online for $99 + shipping. It is the same as a Redmax GZ400 - brand new the GZ400 sells for around $270.

The MS211 is retailed at $269.

 

[wigglesworth]

So..... I was just looking at the vote tallies and wondering.....

How many of the 51 people who voted for the Stihl 211 have actually ever even held one in their hands much less used one???? :dunno:

I'd bet less than half..... probably more like 25%, and I'd still call that optimistic.

I have too held one...LOL...but in all fairness, I have not so much as seen any of the others. What's a Dolmar??

 

[WoodChuck'r]

Makita junk.

 

[rms61moparman]

Makita junk.

Yep!

Just one more in a long line of my "old junks"!!!

But someday, I'll have me some of those fancy saws like the rest of you boys!


Mike

 

[wigglesworth]

Yep!

Just one more in a long line of my "old junks"!!!

But someday, I'll have me some of those fancy saws like the rest of you boys!


Mike

You know Mike, ive heard good things about them fancy Stihl 211's.

 

[WoodChuck'r]

Them Deuce-Elevens are junk too. Stihl is owned by Poulan ya know.

 

[rms61moparman]

I'm sure they are a nice saw, or my buddy Andre wouldn't own one.
Not just any old saw will hold up to a "Beast"!LOL


Mike

 

[Erick]

Nice try, but you know me better than that. LOL

Reconditioned? I have not heard of this with chainsaws. I know with electronics, reconditioned means a unit that broke or had some flaw, then was fixed to be as good as new. Is this the same for chainsaws? Does this mean the Redmax/Ryobi is already having problems with breaking down?

Does Stihl sell reconditioned saws?

Stihl does not sell reconditioned saws they "recondition" them at one their network of servicing dealers strategically placed at various convenient locations across the country...... see a servicing dealer near you for you're own reconditioning needs.


"Factory Reconditioned" means that these saws were returned to their place of purchase and then shipped to factory authorized service center for repair.

The difference is that a servicing dealer is able to determine the cause of the defect at the point of sale and make an assessment as to weather or not the issue is one covered by warranty and may "recondition" your saw then and there or may deny your claim based on their assessment....... Whereas the big box store will just hand you a new saw even though you're the one who straight gassed it and send you happily on your way new saw in hand. They may then send your old saw to a factory authorized service center to be repaired using all the necessary new parts and sold as reconditioned.


Most of these "Reconditioned" saws were returned to the point of sale within a specified short period of time (usually 30 days) for some various defect, as in, the saw was never properly tuned and therefore lacked power and was returned only to have the carb adjusted and then sold as "reconditioned".

Or they may have been missing some part like a bar nut or air filter screw and were returned to a point of sale that does not stock parts or the personnel to make even the simplest of repairs and so the customer was given an entirely new saw and the "defective" one was sent to a factory authorized service center to be "Reconditioned" with a new bar nut or filter screw.

Or they may have been on the "Free Rental Plan" where a saw was bought, performed perfectly to clean up the one limb that fell in a homeowners yard, and was then returned within the 30 day money back return period for a refund. The unit was then returned to a factory authorized service center, gone over, and released to be sold as "Reconditioned".


BTW Redmax does not do this with its Redmax branded units and they are sold and serviced/reconditioned in the same manner a Stihl product would be sold/serviced/reconditioned... at a factory authorized servicing dealer.



And for the record... your 441 has been "Reconditioned" no different.

 

[wooddog]

299.99 LIST on the Stihl, I'm sure it was had for less.

The RECONDITIONED Ryobi's are going for $99.00-140.00.

A new Redmax will get you pretty even with the Stihl price.

So..... I was just looking at the vote tallies and wondering.....

How many of the 51 people who voted for the Stihl 211 have actually ever even held one in their hands much less used one???? :dunno:

I'd bet less than half..... probably more like 25%, and I'd still call that optimistic.

Not only that the redmax are built like a pro grade saw in the 3800 at 38cc and ryobi 40cc, compared to the $300 clam shell homeowner grade 35cc stihl. New 3800 was $229 to the owners door I talked to at the gtg.

Sometimes you just have to get over the name and wake up. Yes I to was a stihl and sachs man at one time. I seen and I believe what I saw.

 

[blsnelling]

Not only that the redmax are built like a pro grade saw in the 3800 at 38cc and ryobi 40cc, compared to the $300 clam shell homeowner grade 35cc stihl. New 3800 was $229 to the owners door I talked to at the gtg.

Sometimes you just have to get over the name and wake up. Yes I to was a stihl and sachs man at one time. I seen and I believe what I saw.

That's what I'm talkin' about!

Hey Erick, what can a GZ4500 be had for? Have you played with one of them yet? I'm assuming it's the same saw as the GZ400/4000 with a bigger bore.

 

[Erick]

That's what I'm talkin' about!

Hey Erick, what can a GZ4500 be had for? Have you played with one of them yet? I'm assuming it's the same saw as the GZ400/4000 with a bigger bore.

Couldn't tell ya Brad, haven't wandered out to look at one yet..... maybe I should. :dunno:

 

[blsnelling]

Couldn't tell ya Brad, haven't wandered out to look at one yet..... maybe I should. :dunno:

Just send one over this way Get me a price when you can, seriously.

 

[wooddog]

Redmax comparison chart. 3800, 400, 4000, 4500, if you notice after the strato saws got listed at 9.5 and up the 3800 went from 8.8 to 9.1 in weight. Now that's funny.

http://www.redmax.com/node3939.aspx?nid=173564,173567,173570,173574

 

[FATGUY]

Incidently, cut time differences are congruent with the displacement difference.....

 

[wooddog]

Incidently, cut time differences are congruent with the displacement difference.....

If this was true Sir. Then why does a woods ported 65cc big bore 361 not able to keep up with the 2 woods ported 57cc 357 I seen at the gtg. The 65cc big bore wasn't even close to the 57cc 357's I watched. I could go on with more examples if needed.

Just face the fact it's a 211 for almost $300 homeowner plastic play saw built on a clam shell.

Your ryobi Sir sounds like a chain saw. The 211 sounds like a whining pos imo.

 

[Taxmantoo]

Reconditioned? I have not heard of this with chainsaws. I know with electronics, reconditioned means a unit that broke or had some flaw, then was fixed to be as good as new. Is this the same for chainsaws? Does this mean the Redmax/Ryobi is already having problems with breaking down?

Box store saws have a problem with people buying them because a tree fell in their yard and returning them after the tree's cut up.
The Ryobi 10532 has its own special problem. It dies when you turn it over on its side to fell a tree. Anybody who finds that out the day they buy the saw will soon be standing in the return line.

In the case of the Ryobis, in fact just about anything sold as refurbished these days, I think refurbished = "we played with it a bit and didn't see anything wrong with it, so slap a sticker on it and rebox it".

 

[TraditionalTool]

In the case of the Ryobis, in fact just about anything sold as refurbished these days, I think refurbished = "we played with it a bit and didn't see anything wrong with it, so slap a sticker on it and rebox it".

Yes, but people who have bought the refurbished models have had problems and have reported that here. In at least one case they got a replacement as I recall. But it makes one wonder how much testing is actually done on them? Or is they just clean them up and package them up and hope they don't come back again...:dunno:

 

[rms61moparman]

If this was true Sir. Then why does a woods ported 65cc big bore 361 not able to keep up with the 2 woods ported 57cc 357 I seen at the gtg. The 65cc big bore wasn't even close to the 57cc 357's I watched. I could go on with more examples if needed.

Just face the fact it's a 211 for almost $300 homeowner plastic play saw built on a clam shell.

Your ryobi Sir sounds like a chain saw. The 211 sounds like a whining pos imo.

First, Nik wasn't talking about every instance, he was talking about the difference in the cut times of the two saws in question.

Second, there are different levels and styles of porting that vary widely between different porters, as well as the inherent differences in the material being cut. (i.e. a 40cc Ryobi will cut a 2x2 as fast as a 7900 Dolmar will.)

Third, I believe your previous post says more about the value of your opinion than I could say in my remaining lifetime.

Lastly, I sincerely hope spring arrives soon in your part of Michigan so you can get out in the fresh air and sunshine and add a little much needed fiber to your diet. Maybe the attitude that has permeated several of your posts recently will improve!!!


Mike