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Oooh I know DdRT on a SRT like over the crown of a palm, SRT anchored back to base then over the limb, and seperate DRT system off of the SRT, would give you 3x load,
Crab, lol you still mad cause I got trigger happy on the neg rep, lol oh look I am dislexic too,
Paul
 
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ROPECLIMBER said:
I am bad with abriviations DRT Dbrt ? Ddrt?
but I would guess when double crotching, or transversing, ???
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Ddrt = doubled rope technique...dynamic system with both legs loaded and moving
Dbrt = double rope technique...static system with both legs loaded but not moving
Srt = single rope technique... static system with 1 leg (cinched) or 2 (ground tied), legs don't move


and.....

nope, it's really simple....has it's uses and advantages, but doubles your loading with a ddrt system.
 
ROPECLIMBER said:
Oooh I know DBRT on a SRT like over the crown of a palm, SRT anchored back to base then over the limb, and seperate DRT system off of the SRT, would give you 3x load,
Paul
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Pretty much.....but it's ddrt on srt, and it's 2x loading. (1x loading on the ddrt leg + 1x loading on the anchor leg)

The easy description is an adjustable false crotch. Super easy to have your lifeline isolated, and the climber can be "rescued" from the ground easily if you anchor to a porty or bollard.
 
ddhlakebound said:
Dbrt IS a recoverable anchor, and a running bowline cinched to a limb is very much SRT, not Dbrt
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Well technically yes, although I've never heard of Dbrt anywhere until now, but you could climb two ropes that were anchored to the base of the tree, or two rope cinched up to the limb, if it's two ropes it's similar to SRT, but it's still two ropes.


......but if you tied a Dbrt system off at the base, you still only get 1x loading on the tip.
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No you wouldn't, if you tied two ropes off at the base of the tree you still have 2x loading on the tip, the only difference would that you have 4 legs of rope with each leg carrying 1/2 your weight. 1/2 YW * 4 legs of rope = 2x your weight on the TIP.

The math don't lie bro.
 
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ROPECLIMBER said:
Oooh I know DdRT on a SRT like over the crown of a palm, SRT anchored back to base then over the limb, and seperate DRT system off of the SRT, would give you 3x load,
Crab, lol you still mad cause I got trigger happy on the neg rep, lol oh look I am dislexic too,
Paul
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What the hell are you talking about?
 
Carburetorless said:
Well technically yes, although I've never heard of Dbrt anywhere until now, but you could climb two ropes that were anchored to the base of the tree, or two rope cinched up to the limb, if it's two ropes it's similar to SRT, but it's still two ropes.

No you wouldn't, if you tied two ropes off at the base of the tree you still have 2x loading on the tip, the only difference would that you have 4 legs of rope with each leg carrying 1/2 your weight. 1/2 YW * 4 legs of rope = 2x your weight on the TIP.

The math don't lie bro.
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You've never heard of it before today, you don't understand how it works, but you still want to define what the loading must be? Is that right?

Dbrt is one rope hung over a tip, with both legs going to the ground parallel, both legs being loaded equally, and the ends hanging free. It doesn't matter if you tie it off or not, and if you do it doesn't change the tip loading. Just be sure load both legs, and not one leg individually.
 
, @ carbless,Actually, yeah.
I am very old school. Never left my taut-line- :msp_scared:, Went into management about 11 years ago after 28 years climbing. My first saddle was a ' Bowline on a Bight',
I climbed for my current job for two years to get their respect.
Anyway, this is a fun thread to read because it is a simple answer.
Jeff :msp_wink:
 
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ddhlakebound said:
You've never heard of it before today, you don't understand how it works, but you still want to define what the loading must be? Is that right?
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I've never heard it called Dbrt.

Dbrt is one rope hung over a tip, with both legs going to the ground parallel, both legs being loaded equally, and the ends hanging free. It doesn't matter if you tie it off or not, and if you do it doesn't change the tip loading. Just be sure load both legs, and not one leg individually.
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That's what I've always called DdRT, cause it's a rope doubled over a limb and both ends tied to your saddle in some fashion.
 
jefflovstrom said:
, @ carbless,Actually, yeah.
I am very old school. Never left my taut-line- :msp_scared:, Went into management about 11 years ago after 28 years climbing. My first saddle was a ' Bowline on a Bight',
I climbed for my current job for two years to get their respect.
Anyway, this is a fun thread to read because it is a simple answer.
Jeff :msp_wink:
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Lol, my first saddle was a Swiss seat tied from a length of rope with a biner clipped into it.

A Bowline on bight, that's what a buddy of mine was ridding when his hitch slipped and he free feel for about 14'.

A simple answer yes, but what was the question?
 
ddhlakebound said:
Read again Carbie,

ddrt = dynamic

dbrt = static - you're not tied to either end of the rope.
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Ahhh, O.K. That would be unsecured footlocking, unless you have really strong arms like me and can just pull yer self up the rope with yer bare hands.

Oh and BTW that would only put 1x your weight on the TIP, at least until you fall and break your frickin neck.
 
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Carburetorless said:
What the hell are you talking about?
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DDH could make out what I ment,as he said it is a SRT used as an adustable false crotch, for a DDRT to hang from, one x load at anchor leg of SRT and one x load on the DRT side, of TIP and while we are calling each other colors, I respectfully moved this topic to a rope based thread, and you brought it back over here in a production based thread,
Paul
 
ROPECLIMBER said:
DDH could make out what I ment,as he said it is a SRT used as an adustable false crotch, for a DDRT to hang from, one x load at anchor leg of SRT and one x load on the DRT side, of TIP and while we are calling each other colors, I respectfully moved this topic to a rope based thread, and you brought it back over here in a production based thread,
Paul
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How did you go from confusing MA with TIP loading to flipping SRT's across palm trees; Did you see that on YouTube?

And another thing; Why is it that everyone from Texas sorta looks like George W. Bush?
 
Carburetorless said:
Ahhh, O.K. That would be unsecured footlocking, unless you have really strong arms like me and can just pull yer self up the rope with yer bare hands.

Oh and BTW that would only put 1x your weight on the TIP, at least until you fall and break your frickin neck.
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Don't worry Carbie, I'm sure a clue will fly by your head someday, and you might even catch it. Ya know those double rope ascenders that you saw? And a prussic will also grip a double rope, until you get too close to the tip.

And I wanna see the video of you barehanding up a rope. Just 20 feet will be plenty. And don't burn your hands coming down.
 
Hijacked

I believe bootboy's thread has officially been HIJACKED... LOL:msp_angry:

I tried to derail the hijack but failed,,,sorry boot.. :mad2:
 
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