Right now the running saws we have is a Stihl M180 and a Husqvarna 455 Rancher. I've had the MS180 for about 5 or 6 years, good little saw for what it made for. About 3 years ago a bad storm brought down a huge arse limb off of an Oak that has a trunk over 60" across that and the limb was way more than the MS180 could handle and it was a Sat. evening and the cows couldn't get by it. The only place around that was open was Lowe's so off to Lowe's we went and bought a 455. Yea it's a tad heavy for it's size but so far it has ran like a champ, my brother has used it here for us more than anyone else and he has a stable full of Stihl's and he liked the saw but did say it seemed a bit heavy. If it had been any other time we would have bought something from a saw shop. If the 028WB I had worked on would have ran more than hour and a half after having worked on we could have took care of with it. One day I'll get my trusty ol' 028 running again, I've had it for about 30 years and it used to be a good saw.