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I wonder what this would cost in US$ given it's made with our banana republic dollars:
Pretty slick but not impressed with the short length rounds. For my furnace I try to cut most of my wood 20”-22”.
I wonder what this would cost in US$ given it's made with our banana republic dollars:
In Europe they cut and split 3' long. Here, 10-12" is about standard. I've often wondered if a longer stroke would be more or less productive if loading it with multiple short rounds. Might be quite a mission keeping them all together when being dragged back on the return stroke though. Next best I guess is building it with a long stroke and being able to adjust it shorter.Pretty slick but not impressed with the short length rounds. For my furnace I try to cut most of my wood 20”-22”.
An adjustable stroke length would be a plus.In Europe they cut and split 3' long. Here, 10-12" is about standard. I've often wondered if a longer stroke would be more or less productive if loading it with multiple short rounds. Might be quite a mission keeping them all together when being dragged back on the return stroke though. Next best I guess is building it with a long stroke and being able to adjust it shorter.
Honda clone made in china.I wont say anything bad about Honda engines,, but after the way that I Kohler 196cc/6.5 HP on our splitter has performed, I wouldn't pay any extra to "Upgrade?" to a Honda. That Kohler rarely needs more than one pull to start, and hasn't given us a bit of trouble.
Made in china.After just spending another two hours trying to get my DHT/Kohler to start (unsuccessfully), let me say that I would NEVER consider another Kohler. I’m somewhere between dragging this POS back to the shop again or just yanking it off, replacing it with a Honda, and selling it on Craigslist as a mechanic’s special. It’s been sitting for a few months out of the weather but the best I can get it to do is backfire. Buy the best and cry once!
Made in china.I hope so! I just bought a 22 ton half bar one week ago. It already quit running. No spark. DHT had me take it to a local small engine place and the guy there said he had never heard of that brand and it didn't surprise him it didn't run. Told me it would be a long time before he could look at it? I'm thinking I made a bad decision?
Made in china.Husky Joe for instance has had bum luck with his Kohler engine.
Made in china.we recommend the Kohler motor as well.
Made in china(for the smaller engines).The engine brand thing is another deal. I think you gotta get a name brand engine like Kohler, Honda, Briggs, Kawi, or whatever. The support network for these motors is already in place for these brands, and most dealers are signed up with them and have access to parts and what not. That's not the case with all of the odd ball "looks like a Honda" knock off engines that are out there(you mean like the Kohler). NOBODY should buy any Champion product with a Champion brand engine on it IMO. There are no parts in the country to support this stuff. See a lot of strange engines on generators. Why expose yourself to this kind of uncertainty just to save a few bucks? People sometimes think we are just blowing them off when we turn away something like that. But we are a busy shop and have neither the time or interest in working on something with an unkown engine on it.
Fresh off the boat.I had a happy ending. A lot of people have a lot of good to say about Kohler engines, including my local small engine mechanic. I'm hoping that my troubles were the exception to the rule. The stuck valve was the straw that broke the camel's back. I got in touch with Kohler and they were aware of my issues. They gave me no BS and my new engine will be delivered by FedEx on Monday. Props to Kohler for their service. Closure!
Made in china.County Line 25 ton splitter with the Kohler
Made in china.I have a dht 20 ton with the Kohler. It starts first pull everytime. Never a problem. Its split a lot of wood. has dht helped you at all?
The early kohler command pro had plenty of head gasket problems which they fixed mid 2000 if I'm not mistaken, but they also had issues with the ignition system and have "upgrade kits" which are actually a downgrade in that it takes you back to the previous version, but at least it works lol.Sorry to hear about your bad luck. I myself will not buy anything with a Kohler engine, they had many issues on a commercial mowers I've ran. Supposedly in the last five or so years they fixed all that in the mid to late 2000's they were junk, so everyone went to Kawasaki.
Who, IIRC, bought fuji heavy industries' Subaru small industrial engine rights/IP when fuji stepped away from that not long ago. I love those small suby engines. I wonder if kawasaki will sell variants thereof?They did loose a lot of commercial customers to Kawasaki over this.
He's made quite a few now. I could be wrong but I think a few of the first ones had issues with the Chinese cylinders but he is now using Kiwi made cylinders without issues.Good question! $8,000 maybe that looks like a prototype?
We'd be a little/lot cruder but was thinking along that design. We have an old tractor driven beam splitter that's clapped out and ready for a revamp. I don't see it being overly difficult.
Have a couple new pumps but not sure the pressure/flow rate on those. A few used ones too. Not as big as he's running for sure. Don't see the need for twin rams really either but will be a learning curve for sure.
Hey Bro.Who, IIRC, bought fuji heavy industries' Subaru small industrial engine rights/IP when fuji stepped away from that not long ago. I love those small suby engines. I wonder if kawasaki will sell variants thereof?
I hear what you're saying Doug, and I was in the same boat. I've bought and sold quite a few splitters, usually 5 or more a yr and have watched speeco in particular start to use these engines. In the beginning it was on the speeco labeled splitters and the engines did not say Kohler on them, then they started using the "Kohler" stickered Chinese clones on the countyline splitters. its pretty easy to tell what it is, just look at it and see if it has all the same features as the Honda units do.I wasn't aware of Kohler being a Honda Clone, or where it was built, I had heard Good Things about Kohler for years, and the DHT spltter had the features I wanted, at a Price that I was Comfortable with, and I haven't regretted the choice yet.
Doug
That's crazy, I wonder what one look like under normal circumstances, or is that normal circumstances?I popped in at my local Kubota dealer a while back to pick up a filter or something and I noticed they had splitter in the showroom on display (and not sitting out in the freaking rain!). I think the brand was Land Pride and yes, it had the same 6.5 hp Kohler as the DHT I bought at the big box store. I didn’t check the price, but I’m sure it was a lot more than I paid ($899 with a coupon), but had I known they sold them I might have given it consideration. Certainly in hindsight!
My new Kohler just arrived. I will probably update my other never-ending thread. I don’t have a wheel puller but with a crowbar, I was able to remove the shaft coupler from the old motor. As you can see from this photo, this poor thing was just a rust bucket from the start. Kohler definitely made good with me and I’m hopeful that as long as I keep it out of the weather, it will give me good service.
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Chinese made valves were the issues my dealer and operators had around hear + the head gasket failures. The valve issue came right after the head problems, you couldn't even buy a Kohler after that, no one would sell them on a commercial mower, supposedly the new fuel injected models are pretty good, but.You guys will get what you pay for, and it effects you as well as our country, but it's your money and your choice.
OP I personally would just grab up a good low hr machine like a huskee 22 ton off craigslist for 5-600 myself. If you find you want something different or bigger you sell it for what you paid or more and move on.
The newest machines with the smaller "Kohler" engines are just Honda clone motors.
I choose not to support Kohler in this endeavor.
Honda clone made in china.
Made in china.
Made in china.
Made in china.
Made in china.
Made in china(for the smaller engines).
Would you service my Honda clone Kohler on a splitter I bought new somewhere else?
Fresh off the boat.
Made in china.
Made in china.
The early kohler command pro had plenty of head gasket problems which they fixed mid 2000 if I'm not mistaken, but they also had issues with the ignition system and have "upgrade kits" which are actually a downgrade in that it takes you back to the previous version, but at least it works lol.
They did loose a lot of commercial customers to Kawasaki over this.
Yep, junk metal isn't good for valves.Chinese made valves were the issues my dealer and operators had around hear + the head gasket failures.
Wow, that escalated quickly.Whoa....hold on a minute here.
Hey @chipper1 , I agree with you philosophically, but if your condescending lecture is over and you'd like to open your ears as much as you like to open your mouth, I've got some wisdom I'd like to share with you. And while I share your political frustration with the way things are, venting your anger here on fellow members with that cheesy "made in china" 10 multi quote post is totally inappropriate and out of place here.
Ya might want to take a look at the shoes on your feet, or through out your house and purge your life of all things made in China. Gonna have a tough time doing that in this day and age I'm afraid to say. You going to throw out your coffee pot and try and find one built in the US? I recommend Tasters Choice if you have to switch to instant.
In this industry, as in others, the choice to avoid Chinese sourced engines in some segments simply isn't there. For instance, there are zero snow engines of any brand that companies can choose from to power snow blowers. This has forced Ariens for one to remove their "made in USA" label on their snow thros. Same goes for these splitter engines that we are talking about. There is a distinction, which was my primary point, that American companies are at least able to provide parts and service support for their Chinese sourced engines, which is often not the case with most non descript unknown brands.
I agree, it's hard to find a balance isn't it.I think making laws that force manufacturers to be more transparent, and list where the major components are manufactured would be a start. Manufacturers still hide behind the curtain! If the masses knew what was what, I believe they would often look for something made in a similar economy to ours. I don't know maybe I'm pipe dreaming.
Now in the O P E busses this normally amounts to nothing more than a nuisance and maybe some money lost, in other Industries people's lives are at risk. There are no morals left in big business in my humble opinion. Capitalism is the best system, but with out PROPER regulation these are the results.[emoji111]
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