Rust removal from chains?

[CentaurG2]

Just don't use that Howes winter diesel conditioner/antigel/dewaterer in extreme cold weather, as it fails miserably.
just a little aside..


back to filthy rotten chains smokin' in the acid bath...

Never used the diesel lube. We go through diesel too fast to bother with conditioner.

 

[CentaurG2]

It is 13/16 by .074 gauge chain on my Mac 99. Nearly impossible to replace.

How are you going to make money with something you cant get parts for?

 

[holeycow]

Winter diesel in these parts is very dry. Fuel systems benefit from suitable conditioners here.

 

[Dave86]

People actually collect saw chain?? Sweet Jesus. Now I have heard just about everything. Old tools and old fools.

This old fool was recently given a loop of 7/8 pitch chain. I have no idea what it ever fit, but is a great conversation piece. 3/8 chain for scale

 

[Dave86]

How are you going to make money with something you cant get parts for?

Only if I sell if for more than I have in it. Other than that it is a money pit.

 

[CentaurG2]

Winter diesel in these parts is very dry. Fuel systems benefit from suitable conditioners here.

We used 5 star years ago but the switch to the low Sulphur diesel seems to have negated a lot of the old water/gel problems. Don’t bother with it anymore.

 

[CentaurG2]

This old fool was recently given a loop of 7/8 pitch chain. I have no idea what it ever fit, but is a great conversation piece. 3/8 chain for scaleView attachment 785526

You might be able to forge it into a knife and get some life out of it. Not much into hanging things on a wall that do nothing but to each his own.

 

[Dave86]

forge it into a knife

BLASPHEMY!

 

[holeycow]

We used 5 star years ago but the switch to the low Sulphur diesel seems to have negated a lot of the old water/gel problems. Don’t bother with it anymore.

You would likely use it here. Our winter diesel is rated down to -40 something, so it's really dry.

 

[Philbert]

People actually collect saw chain?? Sweet Jesus. Now I have heard just about everything. Old tools and old fools. Cant separate them.

Well, I was referring to folks who collect old chainsaws and want period appropriate chains to run or display on them. But I do happen to collect saw chains, so I understand how to filter all of your content. Why waste your time here?

This old fool was recently given a loop of 7/8 pitch chain. I have no idea what it ever fit, but is a great conversation piece. 3/8 chain for scale

Very cool!

Philbert

 

[Dave86]

You might be able to forge it into a knife and get some life out of it. Not much into hanging things on a wall that do nothing but to each his own.

All of the walls in your house are bare? No pictures? No artwork?

 

[CentaurG2]

BLASPHEMY!

Hang it on a nail and watch it rust or forge it into a knife you will use everyday to feed yourself and your family. Don’t sound like blasphemy to me. Plenty of meat in that thing. It would make a great knife.

 

[CentaurG2]

Well, I was referring to folks who collect old chainsaws and want period appropriate chains to run or display on them. But I do happen to collect saw chains, so I understand how to filter all of your content. Why waste your time here?



Very cool!

Philbert

Perhaps you are right. No need for counter opinions here. Group think is the only way to go. Too bad this is a public forum. Don’t like my posts, don’t read em. Just walk away.

 

[Dave86]

Hang it on a nail and watch it rust or forge it into a knife you will use everyday to feed yourself and your family. Don’t sound like blasphemy to me. Plenty of meat in that thing. It would make a great knife.

I appreciate tools and machinery, especially historic pieces, for what they are. The 7/8 chain is not common. I have found no other images on the internet. I can feed my family without destroying a piece of history.

 

[CentaurG2]

All of the walls in your house are bare? No pictures? No artwork?

Pretty much. My house is very spartan. Spent most of my life cleaning up from past generations that just could not let go of junk. Waste of time, money and life. Learned a lot about how valuable free space really is. Good news is I am almost done.

 

[CentaurG2]

I appreciate tools and machinery, especially historic pieces, for what they are. The 7/8 chain is not common. I have found no other images on the internet. I can feed my family without destroying a piece of history.

I tell you that chain is just like a Van Gogh painting. Hang it right on the wall.

 

[Wood Doctor]

This old fool was recently given a loop of 7/8 pitch chain. I have no idea what it ever fit, but is a great conversation piece. 3/8 chain for scaleView attachment 785526

This chain cutter link is not common either:

I sharpened a 12' loop of it after making modifications to my Oregon 511A. A logger was using it to cut 9' lengths of logs for the sawmill. I kept this link and have occasionally added a silver chain and worn it around my neck. It took awhile to get all the rust off and the steel shined up. It might be about the same size as Dave86's in Post #44, but it could be a tad larger. Imagine having to remove the rust off the entire loop.

 

[sb47]

CocaCola.

It has phosphoric acid.

Phosphoric acid does not remove rust. It chemically changes it and naturalizes it. It just turns it black.
Had a family member that had a coral and cattle loading shoot built out of used rusted drill pipe. We used a pump up sprayer to spray the rusted pipe down with Phosphoric acid to naturalize the rust before we painted it. All it did was turn the rust black. I painted a coat of primer then oil based paint and 15 years later the coral is still rust free.

 

[sb47]

Many years ago our water well had a bad iron ore problem that was staining everything a rusty brown color in the sinks, tubs and toilets. We used iron out to get rid of the rust stains and it worked real good.
I had found an old rusted up license plate and one day after I had poured iron out in the toilet tank I set the rusted license plate in the back of the tank and left it there for a few days. It came out looking brand new and rust free. It was like it had never rusted at all. It didn't turn it black like Phosphoric acid does, it just removed the rust and looked like it had never rusted at all.

 

[Justsaws]

For chains, clean in simple green, soak then brush, scrub, maybe soak a bit more.

Rinse with hot(if possible) water, dry and set chains in a container of vinegar, cleaning vinegar 6% is nice however do not pay extra for it. It will go faster with a light scrubbing every once in a while. If it is super cold in the work space it will take longer. May off gas a bit of hydrogen, so be aware. Iron oxide will travel with the vapors so cover it or at least do not place on heirloom table cloth.

Rinse off vinegar using water with baking soda in it and then just hot water.

Dry chain, soak in bar lube. It will flash rust while you are watching it so move quickly.

In terms of time, the chain is ready when the chain is ready. Still stuck is not ready.

Hot water will make things go faster, not needed and does greatly increase fumes.

Wear some sort of chemical resistant gloves. Cover anything you do not want stained with iron oxide, if you are crafty folk the residue at the bottom of the vinegar container is almost pigment ready, so go nuts.

Do not get it in your eyes, mouth, nose, etc., just cause it is “natural” does not mean it is good for you.