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jpenney

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I've got property I don't get to very often, it's in a residential area but houses are spaced far apart, someone is poaching my trees. I've heard the advice of game cameras, get the neighbors to call you, ask the police to look out, is there anything I can do to the tree to make it harder to cut down? I was thinking dropping a lot of brush and some smaller trees around it, wrapping barbed wire up the trunk, like a bike lock just enough to make it too annoying to bother.
 
They are poaching for timber?

What are they bringing them out with? Any way to make access difficult (in a reversible sort of way) for heavy equipment? For example, a couple of big mounds of soil on either side of the drive wide enough for your vehicle, but not enough for a truck...or make a sharp/short turn. Sure, they could move that, but it would make a lot more noise and take more time to do so.
 
They are poaching for timber?

What are they bringing them out with? Any way to make access difficult (in a reversible sort of way) for heavy equipment? For example, a couple of big mounds of soil on either side of the drive wide enough for your vehicle, but not enough for a truck...or make a sharp/short turn. Sure, they could move that, but it would make a lot more noise and take more time to do so.
Nail boards under the dirt where they go. They got to have a truck right they cant be coming in with just heavy equipment. Also post the hell out of the area with no trespassing signs.
 
They are poaching for timber?

What are they bringing them out with? Any way to make access difficult (in a reversible sort of way) for heavy equipment? For example, a couple of big mounds of soil on either side of the drive wide enough for your vehicle, but not enough for a truck...or make a sharp/short turn. Sure, they could move that, but it would make a lot more noise and take more time to do so.
good idea, I should have mentioned there is no drive - it looks like they're cutting in from the neighbor's yard, also mostly vacant. i will think about access as a way to stop him though.
 
Nail boards under the dirt where they go. They got to have a truck right they cant be coming in with just heavy equipment. Also post the hell out of the area with no trespassing signs.
Do you mean a board with nails sticking up? Good idea.
 
Yeah, gonna say no on the punji sticks idea... neighbor kids are playing paintball, one of them impales himself... you end up selling the lot to pay attorneys... no longer worried about a few poached trees...

In regards to your problem, how many times has this happened? Was it a weekend warrior grabbing a little firewood, or did they do some small scale logging?
 
Yeah, gonna say no on the punji sticks idea... neighbor kids are playing paintball, one of them impales himself... you end up selling the lot to pay attorneys... no longer worried about a few poached trees...

In regards to your problem, how many times has this happened? Was it a weekend warrior grabbing a little firewood, or did they do some small scale logging?
No I was being flip on the nails thing - I agree it could get me in trouble.

To answer the question, I don't actually know how often this happened - I've noticed tracks going into the back of the property, so they might have pulled some trees out of there, and up front and visible to the road they marked my trees with orange flag tape. So pretty brazen. They have their friends coming to get the wood, I think. Pretty sure they've paid off the neighbor for access.
I haven't been up there for almost 2 years so I can see the temptation. I'm also pretty sure it's someone who lives in the area.
 
Step one is getting off your keister and going to the property to look around, put 2-3 cameras up and no trespass signs if your after criminal prosecution. If you just want to send a weak message then go there a couple days in a row and make it a point to talk with all the surrounding neighbors about your problem or just sell the lot. Personally I'd make it a point to catch people on the property and prosecute the assisting neighbor if they are cutting healthy trees down. Around here I have been known to cut down dead trees, broken leaners, blown overs hung in other trees, trees down etc on other surrounding lots because people or property will get hurt/damaged at some point and I cut it up and remove it if it is viable wood. I do not touch healthy trees but keeping dead trees removed helps keep bears from sticking around to forage for grubs/beetles and removes the cover to hide in to sleep. I would not be surprised if the other properties around yours are not being poached as well, might e worth a peek to reach out to other land owners.
 
Yeah, no guns. Although it is vermont.
They can get a firewood permit to cut anything n the ground in vt. Blowdowns ect. Someone cut above my land in vt in the national forest.
The ranger to my son he needs to leave my camp after thirty days he didn’t know I own the land.
 
If they are marking trees and accessing your lot through your neighbors, there is also a possibility they have an arrangement with your neighbor and simply misjudged the property lines. I can't believe you haven't contacted the neighbor as a first step.

Another point:

If they are marking the trees with tape they may be cutting for logs of high value.

The owner should look and see if chainsaw chips on the ground are piled in firewood spacings, or if they are piled in log length spacings.
 
They are poaching for timber?

What are they bringing them out with? Any way to make access difficult (in a reversible sort of way) for heavy equipment? For example, a couple of big mounds of soil on either side of the drive wide enough for your vehicle, but not enough for a truck...or make a sharp/short turn. Sure, they could move that, but it would make a lot more noise and take more time to do so.
this is excellent info, thank you.
 
Another point:

If they are marking the trees with tape they may be cutting for logs of high value.

The owner should look and see if chainsaw chips on the ground are piled in firewood spacings, or if they are piled in log length spacings.
Great point, thank you.
 
They can get a firewood permit to cut anything n the ground in vt. Blowdowns ect. Someone cut above my land in vt in the national forest.
The ranger to my son he needs to leave my camp after thirty days he didn’t know I own the land.
That's really good to know. This is definitely them cutting down specific trees though. They marked them with flag tape.
 

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