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Do you guys honestly like those clone saws? I ask because I've never run one.
I have one with a ported Cross P+C that dynoed at 8.6 Hp. I don't think they are as good as OEM so I always run them on good oil at a good ratio (Saber at 40:1). Doing that, I've not had one blow up on me and I've done a good amount of cutting and milling with them.

Also sold one to a pro firewood guy who loves it and used it w/o any problems. I'm sure he cuts a lot more than I do, but he agreed to use the Saber at 40:1.

The AM parts are not the quality of OEM, but I've been able to fix a lot of broken OEM saws with AM parts, and the OEM parts would have made it unaffordable.

For example, Meteor pistons are usually just as good as OEM, but half the price. Tank holders are about 1/4 the price of OEM and work well if you keep the original control lever, etc. AM recoils are a lot cheaper also, but I always put an OEM cord on them and lubricate them with silicon.
 
Nearly made a Stihl-cake out of my 460 a few weeks ago. I mean, I wanted a wrap handle but not that way.

Ended up getting the tree off of it with the tractor and all is well. That little ordeal prompted me to get my 038 Mag going.
I sure would like an 038 in my collection. Great saw!👍Don't see to many of them. Not around here anyway.
 
I have one with a ported Cross P+C that dynoed at 8.6 Hp. I don't think they are as good as OEM so I always run them on good oil at a good ratio (Saber at 40:1). Doing that, I've not had one blow up on me and I've done a good amount of cutting and milling with them.

Also sold one to a pro firewood guy who loves it and used it w/o any problems. I'm sure he cuts a lot more than I do, but he agreed to use the Saber at 40:1.

The AM parts are not the quality of OEM, but I've been able to fix a lot of broken OEM saws with AM parts, and the OEM parts would have made it unaffordable.

For example, Meteor pistons are usually just as good as OEM, but half the price. Tank holders are about 1/4 the price of OEM and work well if you keep the original control lever, etc. AM recoils are a lot cheaper also, but I always put an OEM cord on them and lubricate them with silicon.
Nice, good to know. OEM parts fit clone saws also? Is that correct?
 
I'm sure I'm being unrealistic here, but I just couldn't pull myself to buy a clone saw. I couldn't look at my lovely German ladies the same. It's like they'd known what I've done and I'd feel dirty about it.
Exactly! they would feel betrayed. Next thing you know your having all sorts of problems with the way they run because they've turned on you for turning on them!!!
Yeah, I've seen it myself.🙄
 
The latest scrounge. 1996 Suzuki King Quad 300. At 60 years old (me not the quad), this is my first ever. It has had a rough life cosmetically, sat outside for years, but is basically new mechanically. Has high, low, and front diff lock as well as 2wd, 4wd, and 4wd super low. 725 miles in the last 27 years! 60" plow and winch included. $1300. I figure if I plow a couple times, grade the lane a couple times, and haul out some "overloaded" trailer loads of wood, it should pay for itself quickly. 20230220_160115_HDR.jpg20230224_211724.jpg20230224_211837.jpg
 
The latest scrounge. 1996 Suzuki King Quad 300. At 60 years old (me not the quad), this is my first ever. It has had a rough life cosmetically, sat outside for years, but is basically new mechanically. Has high, low, and front diff lock as well as 2wd, 4wd, and 4wd super low. 725 miles in the last 27 years! 60" plow and winch included. $1300. I figure if I plow a couple times, grade the lane a couple times, and haul out some "overloaded" trailer loads of wood, it should pay for itself quickly. View attachment 1061316View attachment 1061317View attachment 1061318
Old school work quad! Good on ya!👍
 
That's an impressive amount of snow!

Yes, and that’s near enough to my mountain place that that’s how much snow my loader is under right now. It’s in the open, so it disappears faster than what’s in the shade. That snow fell in about three days, previous snow was mostly gone. Maybe it’ll stay cold and this snow will stick around.
 
Does tha T-top torture u to get out all winter?
Yeah, I think about it languishing in the garage and dream of 80° nights.
Is tree monkey still operational?
Yeah, he has a Facebook group called Treemonkey Performance Saws.
The latest scrounge. 1996 Suzuki King Quad 300. At 60 years old (me not the quad), this is my first ever. It has had a rough life cosmetically, sat outside for years, but is basically new mechanically. Has high, low, and front diff lock as well as 2wd, 4wd, and 4wd super low. 725 miles in the last 27 years! 60" plow and winch included. $1300. I figure if I plow a couple times, grade the lane a couple times, and haul out some "overloaded" trailer loads of wood, it should pay for itself quickly. View attachment 1061316View attachment 1061317View attachment 1061318
Nice scrounge, that's a great machine! My uncle has a 97 on his farm. The odometer stopped working about 15 years ago and it had almost 6k miles on it then.
 
Do you guys honestly like those clone saws? I ask because I've never run one.
I have a secret to admit...my 880 is actually a clone parts kit...I don't always admit that, as it riles some people up. :laugh: I couldn't justify spending 088/880/881 money on a saw that rarely ever gets run. I've cut one big oak down with it, it otherwise just gets used for milling.

It's got an OEM oil pump and carb, other than that, it's all clone stuff. Also has a max-flow on it. The cylinder is the aftermarket cylinder that came with the kit, but it's not stock of course. I like it a lot, it's an impressive runner. I've done my best to burn it up, I don't treat it any different than the other saws and it keeps going.

The parts kits are the way to go IMO. That way you know everything is right. I also helped a couple of coworkers build some 440 kit saws. Everything looked pretty good other than the squish band on the head, but I fixed that for them. The chrome itself looked very nice, also the cases are really good. If I cracked a case on an OEM saw, I'd really look at one of the aftermarket sets.
 
Do you guys honestly like those clone saws? I ask because I've never run one.
I should add, the point of this little clone saw is for a cheap, mag case saws to strap to the front of the bike. I already have my climbing saws, but would like something in between them and my 550xp. All of the homeowner 40ish cc saws are too weak, and I'd never get them to outcut my hopped up 201tcm. A genuine 543xp would be the best option, but I'm not spending $600 on a saw to only occasionally use it on the front of the bike. If used Stihl 241s weren't rare as hens teeth, that would be an option too. I dismissed the Makita option, as they're almost as heavy as my 550.
Nice, good to know. OEM parts fit clone saws also? Is that correct?

Pretty much. I'm willing to pimp out an old saw with aftermarket plastic...I can't bring myself to buy expensive OEM plastic, just for it to get all scratched up again.
 
The latest scrounge. 1996 Suzuki King Quad 300. At 60 years old (me not the quad), this is my first ever. It has had a rough life cosmetically, sat outside for years, but is basically new mechanically. Has high, low, and front diff lock as well as 2wd, 4wd, and 4wd super low. 725 miles in the last 27 years! 60" plow and winch included. $1300. I figure if I plow a couple times, grade the lane a couple times, and haul out some "overloaded" trailer loads of wood, it should pay for itself quickly. View attachment 1061316View attachment 1061317View attachment 1061318
Pics with an overload of PA oak Art. Not that lightweight ,wimpy pine or spruce we see sometimes. :laughing: :buttkick:
 
I sure would like an 038 in my collection. Great saw!👍Don't see to many of them. Not around here anyway.
Evening yall

I got an 038 here maybe your interested in. It just sits there collecting dust. I think most of it is complete and it should fire. Who knows it might cut wood.
 
It shouldn’t be that rough, if ur filling each raker accordingly to each tooth, unless there’s more of an issue with the cutters .
When I've hit stuff and fixed the chain the vibration came from bent cutters more so than uneven ones. I ran chain with square on one side and round on the other. Cutters lengths all over the map. Apparently it makes no difference as long as the chain feeds straight. My next tore up chain had bent cutters and nothing could fix it. It became parts for repair. Bent drivers, bent cutters, stretched links and all sorts of fun stuff on half that loop.
Milling is brutal but I never bend cutters like falling trees with spikes in them.

Look closer at the set and slope angles of each tooth to be sure
 
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We consider walnut a soft wood, set.the rakers low and let it eat, compared to many of the hardwoods it's quite soft. A piece of seasoned ash or seasoned black locust is hard. When cutting the ash you still get larger chips, black locust just gives small chips and dulls your chains.
Interesting.🤔 Must be a structural wood fiber and composition thing. I set the rakers too low in conifer and it puts an abnormal load on the saw, and our Sitka Spruce (dispite being one of the toughest and strogest species of wood pound for pound in the world) is a soft wood.
Ever work with any Apitong? Hardest wood I've ever come across! Oak ain't got s**t on Apitong as far as density.
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Get those saws ported by a good builder , and laugh at the low rakers 👍
 
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