Yup. The chainsaw-powerhead powered one (Baileys/Madsens) is light and quick to set up. Throw a strap or the light cable it comes equipped with around a tree, clip into it, and you are good to go. Downside is: 1. if you use a saw with too much power, eg. a 044 / 440 etc, you bust the winch. (been there, done that) 2. winch is chain-driven = bar oil = a bit messy.
The Honda engne winch has more power, is quieter, no bar oil, heavier, takes more time to set up with optional tree mount, and is considerably more expensive. 4-stroke engine has an automatic shut-off if run at too great an angle.
Both of them can chew up/mangle a rope if you aren't paying attention and let extra wraps develop.
For small jobs the chainsaw one is OK, but if you are going to run it for an extended period on a job, eg. multiple trees, I prefer to take the time to set up the Portable Winch Honda one.
Looked at these recently, couldn't find the $, didn't like the sloooooow pull speed (even with the bigger drum that's optional on the 'portable winch' brand) for the low-load application I had in mind. Simpson has a cheaper Honda powered option than portable winch but I didn't get around for comparing the two's features.
Amen to that. Portable winch also have a self-releasing block that's priced well (but lacking a spring loaded latch to catch slack line) but nowhere can I find advice as to it's rating. Have asked them directly via email.It is slow. But it is faster than bucking and carrying, or a wheelbarrow.
Looked at these recently, couldn't find the $, didn't like the sloooooow pull speed (even with the bigger drum that's optional on the 'portable winch' brand) for the low-load application I had in mind. Simpson has a cheaper Honda powered option than portable winch but I didn't get around for comparing the two's features.
A couple of years ago, MileMarker used to carry several different models of fairly inexpensive Honda powered hydraulic cable winches. They were quite heavy, but had excellent speed & pulling power. Never got around to getting one of them, and am sorry to see that they aren't available anymore on their website.
Portable Winch has a clutch model available which is about 2X the price of their standard model. Designed for overhead lifting / rescue applications. Would be nice to have that drum not turn sometimes. Letting the rope slip heats things up quick (destroys rope), and you really need the extra wraps if pulling something heavy.
Have you, or has anyone, done a side by side comparison between the 'Simpson' and 'Portable Winch' portable capstan winches? It would be great to read if so.As far as the price goes, you get what you pay for.
Have you, or has anyone, done a side by side comparison between the 'Simpson' and 'Portable Winch' portable capstan winches? It would be great to read if so.
The phrase "you get what you pay for" is too often, unfortunately, delivered these days to a market conditioned to blindly accepting price as the overriding indicator of quality. In most cases that's probably OK, but when closed minds and open wallets meet marketeers, it's a recipe for unnecessary fleecing of the sheeple.
I've always tried to judge a product on it's merits and the people standing behind it. So have not written off the cheaper Simpson and won't until researching a little more what owners think of it and whether anyone's done some direct comparisons between the products. There may be plenty of reasons why the more expensive brand is better. Do you know of any?
As it is, I cant afford either. :frown:
So, not the current models?I own both. I actually have 3 of the older Simpson winches (2 are broken.) that bolt on to a chaisaw powerhead with 3/8 pitch sprocket. .
Perhaps we should agree to disagree about the wisdom of using price as the sole or even leading indicator of quality.I have to disagree with the price vs quality point you have made.
Both using Honda yet around a $450 difference, which leads me to wonder where those differences lay and if there is any comparative review of the current models offered by these brands. Such a review would make for a better informed buying decision, me thinks.I'm not sure what the current price of the Simpson is, but if equipped withy a Honda, I doubt the price of a Simpson vs Portable would be that far apart.
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