Bradford Pear too close to house???

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tenacrewoods

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Actually I have 3 questions!
1st
This tree was planted 3yrs.ago by my brother while I was in the hospital
having spinal fussion on 5 disc in neck.Wife bought it when it was only 5'
high.I know it's going to get awfully big and shuold be moved now.I have accessto a 67hp. Massy w/bucket & backhoe and plenty of 4" webbed strapping.Just not sure of best way & when to go about this. Please help!
Question 2
Pics of sapplings shutting up off roots,can they root propagated,if yes?
Please advice on best way to cut.Maybe when moveing for transplant???
Question 3
How to prun & before or after transplant??
Mike
 
Any growth coming from the roots will not be the same as the top as 'Bradford' is typically grafted on to the species, Pyrus calleryana a.k.a. Callery pear. If you want to transplant this tree and need some tips, do a search on this site for "Transplanting a Japanese Maple". If there isn't much sentimental attachment to this particular tree I would suggest pruning it at ground level with a chainsaw and planting a different, superior tree...say a Ginkgo, Shantung Maple or most anything other than an ornamental pear.
 
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I plan on Putting something smaller and a little further away from house,But
This Pear is Beautiful when it blooms and (wife will KIIILLL) :angry: if I saw it Down.

Thank Anyway!
Mike E.
 
Bad location, poorly trained tree destined for failure. Those three main leads should have been centralized a long time ago. Admit they are pretty to look at, but require a ton of maintainence and training from the day they are planted which this one did not get. Could be transplanted in the fall if your heart was set on it, but I would start over with a better location and possibly better species. :)
 
dig up w backhoe right after leaves fall, if you have a place with room. Treat with paclobutrazol to slow growth. Tie a rope around the three trunks about halfway up their length to avoid splitting. if the tree has value to your wife this is worth the trouble.

yes i agree other species have less problems but you cannot always convince others of this so why try, and come off sounding like a species snob? i agree with brad that a nice dwarf tree may fit well in that site.
 
treeseer said:
yes i agree other species have less problems but you cannot always convince others of this so why try, and come off sounding like a species snob? i agree with brad that a nice dwarf tree may fit well in that site.
Why try? Because it's your duty, as a scholar and a gentleman, to educate, enlighten, up-lift and help your fellow man. Otherwise you may actually become that "species snob". Hoarding the best kept secrets to your self and a special, chosen few.

Then again, what's the use!!! ;)
 
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Elmore said:
it's your duty to educated, enlighten, up-lift and help your fellow man. ;)
Brad I agree, but your 2 favorite sp. will not fit every situation, yet that's most of what you recommend.

Let's agree that a smaller plant needs to replace the pear, and let it go at that.
 
treeseer said:
Brad I agree, but your 2 favorite sp. will not fit every situation, yet that's most of what you recommend.
Yeah...boring (bor·ing ( bôr ' ĭng, bōr ' - ) adj. Uninteresting and tiresome; dull. bor ' ing·ly
adv. bor ' ing·ness n.) isn't it. :eek:
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Thanks For info Every body.
I'm Going to try to Move it, and as suggested and if it doesn't work
At least I tried. A far as the care of tree When young ,I was not
physically able and admittedly Didn't know any better. That why I'm
Here now to learn all I can as I do have pleanty of room to move tree.
(10acres) Now that I more Able I want To learn to take care of my
trees & land the way it should be.With help f/here I'll do OK,I Think!
Thanks Everyone!!
Mike E.
 
Is a dwarf Ginkgoes or Jap.Lilac ok for spot where BF/P is now???
Wife would like some type blooming tree and shade for front windows.
 
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tenacrewoods said:
Is a dwarf Ginkgoes or Jap.Lilac ok for spot where BF/P is now???
Wife would like some type blooming tree and shade for front windows.
Ginkgo isn't known for it's bloom and I wouldn't recommend a Japanese Lilac for Texas. I may be going out on a limb here, as I don't produce any of these, but a semi-dwarf Crape Myrtle ('Acoma'-white,etc..) may be just what the doctor ordered in this case....better yet A Chaste Tree.
 
Thank Elmore
I have The Crape Myrtle In a 5gal. container that would great in it's place.
Just didn't think of it. 2 big ones on other side of porch,Duh! They do great Here.
Problem Solved. No ones replied about root propagating the shoots of BF/P??
 
tenacrewoods said:
Thank Elmore
No ones replied about root propagating the shoots of BF/P??
I have. Go back and look. They will not be like the 'Bradford' as they are coming off the root stock, a common Callery pear. 'Bradford' are typically grafted on to this under stock.
 
Didn't miss your post Elmore just really didn't understand it. In the pics next to base you can see shoots growing off roots and one not in pic is 4' tall.
As you probably can tell I don't know alot about trees.Will they grow?
was all I's asking! or are you saying they won't and they'll be Ugly :confused:

Thanks for all your help!
Mik E.
 
tenacrewoods said:
Didn't miss your post Elmore just really didn't understand it. In the pics next to base you can see shoots growing off roots and one not in pic is 4' tall.
As you probably can tell I don't know alot about trees.Will they grow?
was all I's asking! or are you saying they won't and they'll be Ugly :confused:

Thanks for all your help!
Mik E.
They will grow but they will not look exactly like 'Bradford'. These shoots are the plant that a piece of meristemic tissue from the cultivar 'Bradford' was grafted to. They are the species calleryana, the under stock, the root stock or the grafting stock. Here is grafting info : http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/hil/ag396.html
These shoots, if allowed to grow on will probably form a larger, broader tree, less densely foliaged with inferior flowering. I don't know...it could be better than a 'Bradford' or any other known cultivar. It could turn out to be a beautiful tree...tight, dense and covered with large double flowers throughout out the growing season...producing large, delicious and edible fruit in abundance...the next greatly sought after cultivar...in the landscape plans for countless sub-divisions in the future...resistant to fireblight and all other disease and pests...only drawback is that it will sucker from the roots and form thickets...???...NAH...just likely to be another problematic, Plain Jane species pear. After you move the 'Bradford' treat these shoots with repeated applications of Roundup.
 
TreeCo said:
Hey Elmore,

I've notice that seedlings from Bradford Pears have thorns, nice bright fall color and seem to spread by underground stolens. I had hundreds growing out of old decayed wood chip piles years ago.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention ...the Thorns!!!
<img src="http://www.eeob.iastate.edu/classes/botany306/terminology/vegetative/images/stems/thorn-Gleditsia.jpg">
 
That's a scary lookin Thorn!!! :eek:
My tree Is ornamental, not fruit bearing. But no thorns on tree or
Saplings. Is it really a Bradford? as was sold to by (big Orange Homey store) :confused:
 
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