Thanks , I am aware of the VEC brand. I was a bit surprised. This 5100 has heated handle and in very nice shape but I found an aftermarket piston in it that has a 1.5mm ring and a clumsy looking piston. The distance from the ring to the crown is greater then stock , it is windowed ..... I don't like it it and don't want to sell that way. HMM I may call Meteor and try my luck with them which I had thought of doing before but figured they didn't have it. Strange , seems that would have been a money maker for them ....