Decent saw and well built, but for sure not one of the best saws in their line-up. I had one for a while, and found it was OK with a 24" bar on it, but I wouldn't want to pull much more than that with it. It would do so, skip chain would help out the longer bar situation, but I can tell anyone reading this for certain, it wouldn't hold a candle to my 181SE anyplace. I kept it around here for a few years, and never found myself reaching for it for any outings to the woods to cut all day, so it went on down the road. Mine was in perfect shape, sold on Ebay for around $350 nearly as I can remember.......Cliff