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copperhead snake

Picture provided by Gordon Rutzen, Wake County. This snake was transported to a non-habited area and released without harm to either the snake or the humans.

A Copperhead snake bite needs medical attention, is extremely painful, and may cause extensive scarring and loss of use. Many people are bitten while trying to kill or handle the snake. Don't take chances -- avoid these snakes.
"Copperhead bites are typically not fatal," says Dr. Peter Bromley, N. C. Cooperative Extension Specialist in Zoology. Small animals, like small dogs, may receive a fatal bite from a copperhead. The venom causes local tissue destruction and secondary infection often sets in. If you or your pet are bitten by any snake that you suspect is venomous, get medial attention immediately. For the most part, if you let snakes alone, they'll leave you alone.

North Carolina has the dubious distinction of the most venomous snake bites of any state in the U.S. Many of these bites could be prevented by avoiding the snake instead of trying to kill it or pick it up. Avoid Copperhead snakes! Allow it to go on its way undisturbed. Copperheads bite more people in most years than any other U.S. species, but they also have the mildest venom. University of Georgia Professor Dr. Whit Gibbons is conducting research to learn why copperheads inflict the most bites.

All the snake species tested have had the same initial response to human presence. If given the opportunity, they escape--down a hole, under a ledge, or in the case of cottonmouths, into the water. Escape is even the standard behavior of enormous diamondback rattlesnakes, which will immediately disappear if they have enough warning before they think a person can reach them.

But often escape is not possible, so most snakes hold their ground, ready to defend themselves. A difference between copperheads and the other species appears in the next phase, when they are approached. Most rattlesnakes vibrate their tails and most cottonmouths sit with mouth open when a human comes near. Even some non-venomous snakes vibrate their tails. These displays are merely warnings not to tread on them. They are not aggressive attack measures. The snakes just want us to leave them alone.

So far, the dozens of cottonmouths Dr. Gibbons stood beside have made threat displays but have not bitten the researcher's boot. The same has been true for canebrake rattlesnakes although too few have been tested to declare that they are as passive as cottonmouths. The exciting news (at least for the researchers) is that the copperhead is different from the others. Most copperheads tested have struck out immediately when they felt threatened.

This behavior explains why more people receive legitimate snakebites from copperheads than from any other species of venomous snake in North America. Still to be investigated is another aspect of copperhead bites: many are not serious enough to require more than minor medical treatment. This may be so not only because the venom of a copperhead is significantly less potent than that of rattlesnakes or cottonmouths, but also because they seldom inject much venom.

The copperhead's initial threat display is to strike. It lashes out at an enemy as a warning. If the enemy is close enough, the fangs may penetrate the skin. However, because this is a threat display, not an attempt to kill, the snake injects little venom. A copperhead has no intention of wasting valuable venom if it can scare away the menace with a minor bite.

Keep in mind, however, that even a non-fatal bite needs medical attention, is extremely painful, and may cause extensive scarring and loss of use. Don't take chances-- avoid these snakes.
 
Contrary to the OP's experience and that of others on this thread, the trademark of copperheads is that they ARE aggressive. I've heard of 2 cases of them giving chase to people that simply got within a few feet of them, in one case landing a bite on a Police Officer's lower leg that sent him to the hospital for several days. Black snakes and rat snakes are always kindly ushered out of the yard and away from the house. A copperhead is dispatched on site. Sorry if that puts some snake lover's panties in a twist.


Of all The copperheads I have had to relocate, none have even struck including the one on Sunday that I had to pry out of the woodpile with a stick into the net. Thats just my experience with them. I don't mess with them, I just move them into the net and move them

On a side note, I was spreading pine needles that came from South Carolina yesterday and two small snakes ( brown in color ) fell out of two seperate pine needle bundles. I was thinking this must be snake year.

I have constantly reminded my kids to stay away from any snake they see and leave them alone. The copperheads tend to stay in the brush and I have only had one that I had to move off the driveway.

All I can say is that I am pleased these are not black mambas that I have to deal with

Here is the net in action
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You must have a nest of them things to have so many, I'd be killin every one of them suckers. especially in the yard with kids. One of you is gonna step on one accidentily and get bit.

We have a large wooded area behind us and I tend to see them back in the woods. We really have not seen them in our grass yard or other areas where the kids play. Now on the other hand I have seen many a black snake working it's way through the grass and around the house. If the copperheads were up at the house or in the grass areas it would be more of a concern.
 
An older guy I used to work with in Az. Told of the time he was running a dozer digging up culverts. He turned and the outside track kicked up a couple of dozen baby rattle snakes from a den. He said it rained snakes. He also said that dozer is still going if there is still fuel in it.
 
okay. my two cents.
in my yard or in my woods if i see a pit viper its going to meet Jesus. my kids and grandkids got first dibs on enjoying my property and poisonous snakes aint' welcome. had a black snake i accidentally killed couple years back. really feel bad about that since they keep mice and other snakes under control.

all this snake talk reminded me of an episode i had.

number of years ago i was inspecting the attic of a house i had just bought. in the middle the attic was only about 4-feet high (really flat pitched roof). there was no light in the attic so i was using a flashlight. of a sudden i came upon a shed about 4 feet long. what's anyone's first instinct upon almost stepping on anything related to a snake. of course, its to stand up. well i tried to stand up but the roof got there first. dam, that hurt.

after rubbing my head i decided i'd already seen the only snake paraphernalia around and decided to finish my inspection. 15 feet further on i came across another shed bout the same size. same instinct took over with the same results. dam, now it really hurts.

that was the extent of my snake encounters for that day. couple days later i saw this large black snake coming and going out of the base of a large tree in my front yard. still lived there when i moved couple years later.

i'm guessing he could shinny up walls or some previous resident took the skins to the attic to discourage vermin. never knew of a black snake to climb but what do i know?

still funny to this day. just sayin.
 
diamonds are to be avoided.

this swam across the brackish creek behind the house. it had 6 rattles.
antidote : 12 ga.

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Found this little guy in a pool skimmer today. About 8" long.
Anyone know what it is ?

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Looks like the ones we call "worm snake" around here.

very good pics and nice succinct informative writeup at this link.
eastern worm snake
I tend to stir a few up each year, when trimming/working the edges of leaf litter
or similar types of spots where you'd also find worms and bugs.

Squirmy lil things.
The ones here tend to dive for cover, so they'll sometimes dart under
a running push mower.
...can't recall if i took any pics of the one that you could still find
any sizable pieces.
seems my 2 blade combo works pretty well.
(standard lift tip & wavy mulcher, blocked at 90deg relative. always sharpened)

I not aware of any reason to be bothered by the little guys though.

I figure distance is my friend, i.e...
Whenever possible, try to always lift or pull things in a manner
that gives escape route in a direction away from yourself.
I know that's not likely to often be practical when picking up tree parts
but any time you can,
use a garden hoe, rake or a sturdy stick to work at a tangent/distance from the lift
or the opening you just created.

Heck, i've actually stopped mowing and shooed away a rat snake once
stomped feet and prodded with a stick to get it out of the grassy area.
Funny how they get all knotted-up looking when in a defensive stance.
(i'll have to see if i can find my pics of one acting like that)
 
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You must have a nest of them things to have so many, I'd be killin every one of them suckers. especially in the yard with kids. One of you is gonna step on one accidentily and get bit.


Yup, I would be too. Rat snakes and black snakes and the like don't bother me as long as I don't run up on them, but the vipers don't make it long if I can help it.

Here we got Timber Rattlers, Copperheads, and Cottonmouths aka water moccasins. I've never ran across a cottonmouth, but the copperheads here are the most aggressive of the other 2. I've had them strike at Trackhoe buckets, tracks, tractor tires, you name it...I don't mess around with them.

Last year we getting ready to set a storm drain structure in the hole on an existing 24'' HDPE storm pipe. The pipe had about 2'' of water running out of it constantly. I took the excavator and mashed on the end of the pipe some to drain the pipe a little sooner.....and here come a copperhead floating out of that pipe! Let me tell you that was pissed off SOB, worst one I'd ever seen. I dipped him up with the bucket and laid it out in the gravel parking where we were working. I believe it was crazy, I've never seen one act like that. You could start walking toward it from 30' away and that dude would get ready to come toward ya. He didn't try to run away at all, he wanted to fight lol. I ended it's life shortly after that....

Here's a Timber Rattler my brother and I stumbled upon earlier this year. Big fat one, it got to meet Jesus too not long after.....

 
Had one close call with a Diamond back a few years ago while I was trimming shrubs.Didn't hear him rattle because the neighbor across the road whacked his rattles off cutting brush.He got into a rock crevice under a shrub and never saw him again.Had an even closer call with a Big Copperhead last year pulling weeds off the side of a Mountain out of some Junipers.He got away too.couldn't hang on to the side of the mountain and try to fight with it too.:laugh:
 
Pictures like that make me glad I live in northern ohio.

Knock on wood, I have spent a very good portion of my 38 years in the woods and never seen a venemous snake. (I know there are massasauga rattlers here though).

A massasuga is so small that it would have to bite your hand, fingers, or toes. You guys would freak if you came to my house. I breed cobras, venemous african species, and I have an 8ft albino eastern diamondback. I also breed the largest of the large constrictors...Reticulated pythons, and African rock pythons.
 
A massasuga is so small that it would have to bite your hand, fingers, or toes. You guys would freak if you came to my house. I breed cobras, venemous african species, and I have an 8ft albino eastern diamondback. I also breed the largest of the large constrictors...Reticulated pythons, and African rock pythons.

Any pics of the Albino diamondback?
 
blue runner shop boss

We have lots of blue racers here. Once driving my truck through the pasture I ran over one, and saw him in my rear view mirror flipping about. So, I stopped the truck and walked back to take a look and him. Well, he was mad, and came at me and chased me all the way back to my truck, then he hightailed it. My heart was full of adrenaline, and I became mad then, so I took out after him and chased him down till he decided to put up a fight. Like a Cobra he stood high on his tail as we faced one another at about 6 feet apart. My son drove the truck up to us, and I told him to toss his hat at the snake. When the snake spun at the hat I lunged at him grabbing him with both hands just below the head. Man, he was strong trying to get out of my grip. I gave him a good scolding then turned him loose, and he skedaddled.

They can run on their tails at least as fast as a man, standing over 3' above the ground, and keep it up for a good 100 yards. Weirdest thing you ever saw.



In '73 I cleared a couple acres of woods and built a mechanic shop. A huge blue runner liked to hang out there. Fortunately for him I saw him from a distance the first time and recognized him for what he was. He was around for years. He would stroll in my shop and come check out what we were up to. I remember him coming literally look over my shoulder standing up from the concrete when I was squatted down and hunched over removing a brake drum. I dubbed him the shop boss. Over six feet long when I sold my shop, don't know exactly how long but the living was easy in south Louisiana for him.

With roll up doors across the front of my shop and a walk in door at the front too the zoning and inspection folks decreed I had to have another walk in door in the 30' back wall of my shop. It was over a foot step down to the ground out of this door but since I rarely used it I didn't bother putting a step there.

A friend came by and wanted to look at a parts vehicle I had behind the shop. As I stepped out the back door I saw the blue runner slide into a pile of sheet metal on one side of the door, I was doing body work too by then. I decided not to worry my friend behind me, no need to say anything. As he stepped out the door the blue runner decided he liked the scrap pile on the other side of the door better. All my friend saw was a couple yards of black looking snake sliding between his feet. He made two or three big jumps and startled my guard dog when he almost stepped on him where he was peacefully sleeping on a chain in the daytime. The dog exploded and W made a couple more huge jumps and was bent double with his arms around my waist to keep from falling, hyper-ventilating. I wasn't much help, I was laughing so hard tears were steaming down my face and I was struggling to stand myself. "W, that blue runner wasn't a problem. When you got in reach of old blue . . ."

Told the buyer about the blue runner and hoped he didn't kill it or the speckled king snakes that I kept around too. I always felt like the blue runner had first dibs on the place since he looked like he had been there for years before I built the shop.

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Yes...I have pics and videos. I have a picture of her when she was about 6months old. I am at work right now so I cant upload the pics but I will post some when I get home tonight. I like snakes as much as saws. It's a very interesting experience to look into the eyes of a cobra and know it's looking back at you. Just a trivial fact but cobras are about the same intelligence level as a cat or dog. You look at them....they look at you.
 

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