main as a choker

[northmanlogging]

I'm not real good at it, loggers eye, farmer eye, short splice, can't get my head around a long splice, or rolling the strands in... Not that I've ever had the need to do more then the occasional eye splice, and just playing with a short splice...

Farmer eye is super easy by the way, just remember to lock the fuzzy ends down or the whole damn thing works its way loose again...

A logger Eye isn't so bad once you figure out how it works, a fair bit of work but doable, takes me a bout 10-20 minutes in 5/8 line. first try took like 4 hours and was completely wrong, but its still holding what 4 years later or so...

I'm completely self taught on this one... I'm sure there are lots of tricks and methods I'm not aware of, so I'm a little sketchy on showing other peeps how it works.

 

[Reddog]

Took me a while to find it. Tail chain is what I have seen used.

http://www.wallingfords.com/ProductDetail.php?Winch-Line-Tail-Chains-25

 

[treeslayer2003]

red dog, you hook that on your main line? dosen't it kink the cable? i have seen hooks made to go on a main line, i wonder if they made to not kink it...

 

[Reddog]

Yes for hooking back onto the cable, or a clevis for pulling equipment. The hook is pretty rounded to limit kinks.


Your other option is a Bantam sized choker hook. But that requires a button on the winch line end.

 

[treeslayer2003]

yes, i am wondering if a wedge ferrule would fit into one of those

 

[Reddog]

The buttons fit snug, can't imagine a wedge ferrule would fit.

But I also haven't found dimensions for the wedge ferrules.

What sucks with the buttons, every time you need to shorten your main it needs a new one pressed on.

 

[treeslayer2003]

yea, and no where around here does that..........tie a knot. got to have a knob on the drum end on the clark.

 

[Humptulips]

Choker bell and a quick nob. Used to call that a chunk out line.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Choker bell and a quick nob. Used to call that a chunk out line.

so it will work?

 

[northmanlogging]

http://www.wescovan.com/catalogs/wireropeterminations.pdf

Page 11 or so give dimensions of the quick knobs, still looking for the choker dimensions...

 

[northmanlogging]

http://www.westechrigging.com/choker-hook-bantam.html

Looks like the bantam will work with a 2" knob? More then a little guess and by golly though.

 

[treeslayer2003]

2" compared to 1.6" ............pretty big

 

[treeslayer2003]

http://www.westechrigging.com/choker-hook-bantam.html

Looks like the bantam will work with a 2" knob? More then a little guess and by golly though.

where do you see that? i looked at that site 5 times now and havn't seen the hole size.......

 

[northmanlogging]

cross refferanced the width with the picture and made an educated assumption... I'll make some calls tomorrow...

 

[treeslayer2003]

cross refferanced the width with the picture and made an educated assumption... I'll make some calls tomorrow...

i will owe ya one.............i e mailed an out fit in idaho, blue jay.......we will see

 

[RandyMac]

Knots, I still remember the knot for 1 1/4" arch line. "hand and a half" LoL!!!

 

[Humptulips]

so it will work?

When I worked AK the only chokers we had were the ones we made ourselves with quick nobs.

 

[northmanlogging]

Ok so the local shop has one... just one... but they can order more, quick knob and a bantam hook. Lemme know. They mentioned the knob being special for the bantam sized hook? But they are out there.

 

[treeslayer2003]

so ya have to have the special knob to work with the hook? if it works.........did ya price it? PM me if ya want or post here.

 

[northmanlogging]

No I didn't price it... should have, it might not be a "special knob" could just be the smaller 3/4 knob? Won't know until its in my grubby paw.

I doubt it would be more then $60 for the hardware, had 2 5/8 x 12" chokers made up there a month ago or so for $93 and some change, so like 47.50 a piece or so.