branchbuzzer
Undiagnosed
See, just one more reason to have a 10+ year supply of wood - the fact that you'll never have to worry about being in a firewood triangle.
Need Some Advice
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atvguns
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Go get the dang wood if you are worried pay her a small fee and get a receipt
I will tell you which way I am leaning but first to clarify a couple of points. First and foremost I DO NOT pay for firewood.! I don't care where it comes from if I can't process it myself I will go without. (the people that buy wood this is not a slam at you it is just the way I feel) Second keep in mind SHE contacted me I am not out to fleece her out of anything it was HER idea. Third,
I was told by a friend that knows her fairly well and he said she would likely torch the pile before it could be sold out from under her. (This is second hand but I think it goes to the theory that she means business.) Lastly I believe that I have enough wood on hand for a couple of years but put yourself in my shoes and see if you don't look at it a little different.
Here is what I think I will do. I will show up tomorrow morning and have a paper drawn up with the simple statement that she is giving me the wood with no strings attached and have her sign it. If she is good with that I start loading. I will take someones advice and if anyone shows up while I am in the process of loading (Guessing 3 loads with my pickup) I will leave immediately, not return and chalk it up as a lesson learned. Might not be the best plan but it is what I think is the best coarse of action considering the circumstances.
I was told by a friend that knows her fairly well and he said she would likely torch the pile before it could be sold out from under her. (This is second hand but I think it goes to the theory that she means business.) Lastly I believe that I have enough wood on hand for a couple of years but put yourself in my shoes and see if you don't look at it a little different.
Here is what I think I will do. I will show up tomorrow morning and have a paper drawn up with the simple statement that she is giving me the wood with no strings attached and have her sign it. If she is good with that I start loading. I will take someones advice and if anyone shows up while I am in the process of loading (Guessing 3 loads with my pickup) I will leave immediately, not return and chalk it up as a lesson learned. Might not be the best plan but it is what I think is the best coarse of action considering the circumstances.
ponyexpress976
nipple fritters
Dogsout...you got the right idea. She's in the house, he isn't. She contacted you. Everything you've heard on the back story is hearsay...good luck proving that! Keep a level head about yourself and you got nothing to worry about. If at a later time, it bothers you having that wood, donate it to a family that is struggling.
Bushmans
Smoke Dragon Herder
All things aside if it was me I'd take it and if someone showed up i'd play stupid. Some lady called me to haul away her unwanted wood.
Forget aout her explanation and go with the basics. She wants to get rid of the wood and she called you to take it.
If it went to court over wood then she would have to pay for his share not you.
My folks split up and before the divorce my step mom gave all my dads tools away out of spite. Thousands of dollars worth. The judge made her pay my Dad for all his stuff not the guy who got it. That lucky SOB is running around with my inheritance tools now.
You'll be fine.
Forget aout her explanation and go with the basics. She wants to get rid of the wood and she called you to take it.
If it went to court over wood then she would have to pay for his share not you.
My folks split up and before the divorce my step mom gave all my dads tools away out of spite. Thousands of dollars worth. The judge made her pay my Dad for all his stuff not the guy who got it. That lucky SOB is running around with my inheritance tools now.
You'll be fine.
freemind
ArboristSite Guru
HERE is the best post on this subject.
There is NO question of legality. It's mutual property, like a joint bank account. SHE can do whatever she want to with it.
You can either GET it, or someone else will.
Besides, how will her family look at it if you run away from it now? They suggested YOU for the job. They might not do it a second time if you don't follow through.
Forget the paper and having her sign it... all that does is open you up to scrutiny.
See, if the husband would try something stupid like some sort of BS civil suit against you (and her) some slick lawyer could point at that paper and claim you were, or are, trying to cover-up some sort of intent (in a civil suit you don't have to break the law, you only need to intentionally wrong someone, and it's usually a jury deciding it... not a judge). Why would you want to have some sort of paper trail for a gift? Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever! Raises red flags in anyone's mind! And a slick lawyer would exploit that in a heartbeat! If you just accept the gift graciously, say thank you, and drive away... well there ain't any grounds for civil suit when merely graciously accepting a gift.
You need to think in simple terms... If ya' ain't doing anything wrong, there's no reason to CYA!
And if ya' CYA it looks like you, at the very least, thought you did something wrong = intent to wrong someone!
See, if the husband would try something stupid like some sort of BS civil suit against you (and her) some slick lawyer could point at that paper and claim you were, or are, trying to cover-up some sort of intent (in a civil suit you don't have to break the law, you only need to intentionally wrong someone, and it's usually a jury deciding it... not a judge). Why would you want to have some sort of paper trail for a gift? Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever! Raises red flags in anyone's mind! And a slick lawyer would exploit that in a heartbeat! If you just accept the gift graciously, say thank you, and drive away... well there ain't any grounds for civil suit when merely graciously accepting a gift.
You need to think in simple terms... If ya' ain't doing anything wrong, there's no reason to CYA!
And if ya' CYA it looks like you, at the very least, thought you did something wrong = intent to wrong someone!
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greendohn
firewood hack
load it up and burn it. free don't come along every day in life, unless your like my neighbors and get free money, free food, free health care and yes,,one of my neighbors gets free fire wood. all from the guv'ment. it aint your fight, but, once that wood is on your truck, it's your wood.
woodguy105
ArboristSite Guru
what if the real story is the wife had a fight with the husband because he buys too many chainsaws and spends too much time cutting.
So she says I'll fix him and she decides to give his wood away??
Just sayin....:monkey:
So she says I'll fix him and she decides to give his wood away??
Just sayin....:monkey:
WHAT IF? Give me a break... I ain't gonna' start livin' my life by "what if's".
What if the next time you start your saw it blows the spark plug out and drives it through your head?
So, ya' gonna' stop using your saw?
What if the next time you start your saw it blows the spark plug out and drives it through your head?
So, ya' gonna' stop using your saw?
teatersroad
What's a henway?
Oh.. I get it. He wanted legal advice, not moral advise. Well in that case he definitely came to the right place.
teatersroad
What's a henway?
Nothing 'what if' about having only one side of the story. What if you considered that?
woodguy105
ArboristSite Guru
Dude lighten up.....
teatersroad
What's a henway?
exactly..
woodguy105
ArboristSite Guru
She is in the home. The wood is hers to do with as she pleases (her property, yadda, yadda, yadda). Load it, haul it, stack it and crack open a beer. Nobody is gonna come after you later on for a lousy hundred bucks worth of wood.
Hedgerow
HACK
teatersroad
What's a henway?
k.. outa this thread. taking that wood is messed up though. if you can't figure it out.. sorry.
zogger
Tree Freak
It's winter
That lady ain't thinking straight,.She is living in the house that NEEDS firewood, or it wouldn't be there. She can also stop any BIL from coming over and taking it reselling it. She should get a restraining order against dear hubby before doing anything, then calm down herself and *think* about her situation, not react like a cockroach.
He left HER and is now out of state and abandoned her. Technically, sure, she can give that crap way..and the newspapers are fulla little articles that involved the police, and blood, once people stop thinking rationally and think and *act* emotionally. It's juvenile, but adults drop back to that level all the time, usually with bad results. Sounds like both of them need some growing up.
Talk to her and get this clear to her, she just isn't thinking this through clearly. She needs the heat. Or is she just gonna go run away back to mommas house and trash all they had? More juvenile crap. Ya, you can get real mad at a betrayal, but it isn't worth screwing your own life up over in addition to the screwing you just got, that's just compounding the problem.
IF you want to be further involved that is. Otherwise, leave it alone. She and he will learn a life lesson. I know I certainly wouldn't want to be party to juvenile acting out.
No, I wouldn't take the wood, and I would just calmly advise her to keep the wood to heat with.
That lady ain't thinking straight,.She is living in the house that NEEDS firewood, or it wouldn't be there. She can also stop any BIL from coming over and taking it reselling it. She should get a restraining order against dear hubby before doing anything, then calm down herself and *think* about her situation, not react like a cockroach.
He left HER and is now out of state and abandoned her. Technically, sure, she can give that crap way..and the newspapers are fulla little articles that involved the police, and blood, once people stop thinking rationally and think and *act* emotionally. It's juvenile, but adults drop back to that level all the time, usually with bad results. Sounds like both of them need some growing up.
Talk to her and get this clear to her, she just isn't thinking this through clearly. She needs the heat. Or is she just gonna go run away back to mommas house and trash all they had? More juvenile crap. Ya, you can get real mad at a betrayal, but it isn't worth screwing your own life up over in addition to the screwing you just got, that's just compounding the problem.
IF you want to be further involved that is. Otherwise, leave it alone. She and he will learn a life lesson. I know I certainly wouldn't want to be party to juvenile acting out.
No, I wouldn't take the wood, and I would just calmly advise her to keep the wood to heat with.
Sorry I didn't read all the posts here, so maybe someone already came up with this idea (wife is waiting) but have her sell it to you for a buck and make sure you get a receipt for it.
