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Who all has an outdoor wood stove (or wants one) and what type do you have? Do you like it? Do you think it eats more wood? I just would like to know. I have been doing wood stoves for about 6 years and been around them for a long time. I love other people idea's on them.
Thanks Jack
mine is a home built
and have a central boiler and timber wolf that I play with...
 
Jack, Glad to see you start this thread as I was thinking of starting one myself. For such a hot item there seems to be few discussions on the Internet other than the freestanding stove hugger over at that woodheat site and on Motherearth news where there is a 3 year old thread going that has little activity.

I just purchased a Woodmaster 4400 and we are digging the trench for the lines now. Calculated from winter heat bills of 2004 2005 which was very mild here and those gas rates my stove will be paid for in a little over two heating seasons. I am concerned about wood usage only because of my age as my supply is virtualy endless. Cutting more than 8 cord a year could become tedious I am afraid? I choose Woodmaster because there is a long standing dealer near, the company has been in business for a while, I wanted a round chamber for less welds and I wanted to go with a forced draft/ less water capacity unit instead of the larger capacity/natural draft type.

I hope this becomes an active with good info as there is precious little to choose from.
 
Yes everone post some good info on outdoor wood stoves........

Woodmaster is a very good unit I have worked on a few of these units. I have been a non powered draft type person for a couple reasons.
1. They will use a little bit more wood(your pushing the hot air faster through the fire box then a nat. draft stove)
2. They will use a little bit more power. (not much more)
Ok i only have 2
They have alot faster recovery time.
I like simple stoves they have less stuff to go bad on them....
Is your woodmaster about 5000sqft heating space??? I cant rember.
Jack
 
Ya, 5000 sounds right. It is the mid-sized unit sold to heat a house plus a garage. The Woodmaster dealer has sold three trailer loads, 36 total I think since Jan 1. No dealer around here can get enough stoves. Sorta reminds a fella of a land rush. Id just like to see some good info be exchanged on fuel usage, problems, modifications etc. I read over on the woodheat site where some dude claimed to be using like 25 cords a year to heat with his outside boiler and another over at Motherearth news and lives in Quebec claims to be heating his hose with 2 cord, ya right! to both claims. I just measured my wood piles and looks like I have 5 cord of mostly wild cherry split and stacked beside the stove, 16 cord of Hickory and Oak stacked out at the farm and another 3-4 cord of Sycamore stacked in the woods. I am hoping that is close to 3 years worth of wood so I can keep ahead with seasoning. The big smoke output I read about just doesn't add up either. I have been watching outside boilers work for several heating seasons around here and smoke never crossed my mind until I read about it on the Internet. Must be something to it because I see where they have been banned in certain more socialist parts of the country. I also toiled about stainless vs carbon and ended up with a 1/4" carbon unit. Woodmaster has supposedly suspended production of 409 SS units due to warranty problems and my dealer said stay away from any SS unit. I guess by the time I have all of this figured out I'll be too old to have worry about it, LOL
 
Smoke My @ss

They dont smoke that much only when they start up. Some people just dont under stand the idea. You are going to us about 4 to 6 cords of wood, it my be less or more but avg. is 4 to 6 cords. Mine burns about 3 cords of wood a year, my house is old but only 1800 sqft. (and thats all im heating). any more ??????
Jack
 
i have and sell crown royal stoves...been putting them in for the last 5 years(been doing HVAC work for 25 years)...i can get by on about 3 cords (1600sft + water heater)..that all summer to doing the water heater never shut it down...i have the 7200 model will take 32" logs but we have one that take up to a 60" log 7500 model...done one job for a guy with an in ground pool (34,000 gallons) and a 5000sft house and 2400sft pole barn and he keeps the pool at 92 degrees in the winter and he only burn't 10 cords last winter with a 7400...i really like mine and the ones we sell...mine only smokes for the 5 min's or so at fire up then you can't even tell it's running
 
I bought a Central Boiler last year & am very happy with it. I spent days and days researching all the brands available in my area, and found that the Central Boiler is the best bang for the buck. It retails a little higher than other brands, but with the 25 year warranty, better insulation, and overall better built, I highly recommend it.
 
Some pics of whats going on with my installation.

The trench hand dug by the boys, they come in handy. 62 feet to the house and 3 foot deep

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The 4400 Woodmaster and part of the woodpile

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The building in the backgorund is my shop. It will be heated with a seperate loop. The wood pile is mostly Cherry tha I used in a free standing stove in the shop.

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central 5600

I bought a central wood boiler 2 yrs ago. My family and I love it. We do go through a little more wood about 30 cord. Still not bad for 3000 sq ft 2 story house thats 150 yrs old. That is also all my domestic hot water. I have base board heaters they work great with this system. The only hidden cost to these is the pipe that goes from the unit to the house. Check price before you choose how far to set it away. Also I put mine up on a course of block so i would not have to bent over filling it. In all it is the best investment I have ever made.
 
SWAMPY036 said:
I bought a central wood boiler 2 yrs ago. My family and I love it. We do go through a little more wood about 30 cord. Still not bad for 3000 sq ft 2 story house thats 150 yrs old. That is also all my domestic hot water. I have base board heaters they work great with this system. The only hidden cost to these is the pipe that goes from the unit to the house. Check price before you choose how far to set it away. Also I put mine up on a course of block so i would not have to bent over filling it. In all it is the best investment I have ever made.

Seriously, 30 cord? 30x 8'x4'x4'? Id need a firewood processer to get that much cut and split every year, lol.
 
30 face cord is about right for my Central Boiler also. I used "thermoflex" tubing in the ground. Cost more $$, but seems to be worth it.
 
central

With my central boiler I filled it with glycol I got 300 gal. for free. But you can mix in antifreeze to get a lower freezing temp. I have a furnace that can be ran to maintain the house temp. so the pipes do not freeze. This works out great if you go on vacation in the winter. Mainly because you have to rely on someone to feed the boiler. These units cost enough that you would not want the reservoir or the pumps on the side to freeze. This is just a idea someone else might like also.
 
I have an Empyre 250 and have used it for two winters. I have a brand new home and have unfortunate but very serious heating issues within the house. They are not a result of the boiler but rather very shoddy heating installation. I went through 18 cords and that's full cords last year alone heating my 2000sqft home. I have my boiler approximately 75' from my house and run 1" pex for my supply and return, thats bubble wrapped and inside drain pipe. The pipe is only 2' underground but really there wasn't a significant snow melt from heat loss. The boiler unit is a knock off or clone to the ripple top design of the central boiler. The unit is well made and short of the possible problems with the underground lines, was definately a great investment. My first year of use was just heating the house while the contractor was finishing the inside. That year alone I burnt approx. 10 cords of hardwoods, 1.5 ton of mine run coal, and TWO 200gallon propane tanks full of propane. That was when it was very evident that there were serious issues with the inside heat.

We are still working to understand the problems and are trying to figure them out. Until then I work on cutting my firewood for this winter like a colony of ants preparing for winter. I already have 7.5 cords cut, split, and stacked, and 4 more cut waiting to be split. Even though I have spent considerable time cutting wood to heat my house, I would never have been able to heat it with propane. I would have had over $4000 in propane alone for the entire year. Especially since I heat my domestic hot water with my heating system. So the outside boiler may be labor intensive but it at least has saved me a considerable amount of money.

Thanks
Ray
 
Do you guys know of any Outdoorwood stove forums?????

I love thermopex....
 
I have been lurking for a while and looking around the internet becouse I am building my own stove. The biggest concern I have is the underground pipes. There is a dealer for global hydronics here in town and he sells pipe wrapped in bubble wrap and placed in a drain tile. I was going to do this on my own but I would like some feed back from someone using pipes insulated in this manner. Not sold on the set up but 10.00 plus a foot is not an option.
So i am looking for options
This week I will take a few of of my stove so far anf get them up for you fellas to see
Thanks Brian
 
Dont buy that bubble wrap crap.... Make your own or buy it from me its made of 3inch foam and is in a sleave to keep water out. I live in Nasville MI(made 5 home built stoves) we sell timberwolf outdoor wood stoves.
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