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I can see,, we are going to have to send you,, to the elitist indoctrination school....with ovomit as the head teacher.........
13 hours
What the he!! happened??
I was out in the shop, so I'm just guessin' here...
But I assume the house dropped to 69½° and the draft blower kicked in and woke up the coal bed until the house reached 70½°. Because of the mild(ish) temps outside there was enough residual heat from the blower runnin' to bump it up another ½°. (Damn frustrating, ain't it??)
But that's just a guess...
What the he!! happened??
I was out in the shop, so I'm just guessin' here...
But I assume the house dropped to 69½° and the draft blower kicked in and woke up the coal bed until the house reached 70½°. Because of the mild(ish) temps outside there was enough residual heat from the blower runnin' to bump it up another ½°. (Damn frustrating, ain't it??)
But that's just a guess...
laynes69
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Whitespider, this post was from this year at the end of the season. It sounds like your happy with your new furnace, but there's quite a discrepancy between the wood usage. Either way, it doesn't matter. I do feel, if you had a modern unit that was designed for central heating, you would save wood, but if your happy thats all that matters.
Yes, but I didn't burn all the oak I had in the house... it sat in the basement all summer.
I was moving elm and whatnot in April... I didn't wanna' waste the oak. Although I still had 'ta mix it in because I was light in "lessor" quality stuff. Still, I may have underestimated (I did say "I think"), and I may have over-estimated last spring, or both... I don't "measure", it's all guess work. What can I say (shrug).
14 hours and holdin' steady (although a bit warm in here... damnit).
Looks like I was light on the 15 hour estimate... may be 16 hours before I'm tossin' 2-3 splits in to keep the coal bed viable.
Looks like I was light on the 15 hour estimate... may be 16 hours before I'm tossin' 2-3 splits in to keep the coal bed viable.
mn woodcutter
ArboristSite Guru
I have to say that is impressive! Even though the temps are fairly mild I would say you have a very sweet setup there!
Yeah... 39° right now. Ain't no way I'd have got this many hours if temps were colder. Mid-20s and I'd have loaded three hours ago... maybe four. If we were in single digits I'd have loaded a least a little when I rolled out this morning just to stay ahead of it.
But...
16½ hours and it's finally time to add some fuel (thermometer just now changed to 69°). The truth is I've pushed it because of this thread... I really should'a added a couple sticks about 1½ or 2 hours ago (exactly what I estimated early this morning... 'bout 15 hours) so we wouldn't lose. Anyway... here it is... loosing a little bit of temp in the house. I'm headed down to toss some sticks in...
and the proud, arrogant ones.. would tell you a elitist stove would be soooooooooo much better........
Oh‼ And after 16½ hours there's enough screamin' hot coals (that ain't ashed-over) to just open the door, toss in the sticks, slam the friggin' door, and walk away‼
Fantastical... ain't it??
Fantastical... ain't it??
Have I mentioned just how much I hate my elitist stove??
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mn woodcutter
ArboristSite Guru
Enough already! I think we get it. Clearly you've found something that works well for you! That's great. Good for you!
However, I would HATE my Subaru outback if I were trying to use it as my primary wood hauler!
L-O-L ‼
And just ½ hour later were back on track... the whole house.
Life is damn good in NE Iowa.
Chris-PA
Where the Wild Things Are
All more irrelevant distraction, as this discussion was never about a wood furnace with an active control system and a forced draft blower in a 39° warm spell.Oh‼ And after 16½ hours there's enough screamin' hot coals (that ain't ashed-over) to just open the door, toss in the sticks, slam the friggin' door, and walk away‼
Fantastical... ain't it??
How about that simple box with fixed air inlets you never adjusted through the burn, and air flow up through the coal bed, heating your house to a steady 70° in sub zero temps (yes, that was the discussion), and burning for 6-12hrs? No adjustments at all during the burn.
BTW, since it is 37° here today I let the large secondary combustion stove go out and am burning the little Hampton H200 secondary combustion stove. House is nice and toasty with only a couple of small splits in that small fire box. No ash problems either. Here I've just reloaded it for the first time today - three small splits (<14"):
Nice hot coals - the primary air is almost completely shut down. Here is the awful load of coal and ash in the bottom - I haven't cleaned it out in quite a few days of burning:
I got up around 5:30. Started up the Quadrafire elitist communist feminist stove. Put in 3 pieces of firewood. Added 3 more and turned it down. House got too hot. Stove is going out, slower than I wish. It is 40 outside. House is 1400 sq. feet, built recently with 2X6 walls, insulated and vinyl doublepane? windows in it--lots of glass in the big room. My "blower" is a ceiling fan.
Chris-PA
Where the Wild Things Are
Sure - you went on an on about the performance of your wood furnace, which is totally irrelevant in a discussion about wood stoves. And backpedaled on the 6-12hr burn - which appliance was that exactly? It appears it was actually the furnace too. How long would that stove you had before the "Stovace" actually go while maintaining a steady 70° on a really cold day with a fixed air setting? I don't have any doubt that a large wood furnace with a control system that can stop the burn down to nothing and then blast it back to life with a blower can heat your place on a 39° day with a very long burn time. Yawn.
I'm heating mine with a tiny secondary combustion stove and a few small splits, and not building up a huge bed of coals, and it's a couple of degrees colder here today. So you're saying this is magic, or that maybe I'm not actually heating my house but just think I am thanks to my belief in magic?
Then again I guess you would think it is magic, as on a similar day you were unable to get your shop up to 60° with a much larger secondary combustion stove, and buried the splits in a 4-5" bed of coals in 2hrs. Apparently you don't know the magic spell.
brenndatomu
Hey you woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!
...I vote to refer to the "feminist elitist communist stove" as simply FECS from here on...
I answered that in post #236... the post you claim was only about my furnace... obviously you did not read it.
This repeating myself is gettin' old, but I'll do it again...
#236 - "I don't believe I said it would heat for 6-12 hours "at sub-zero temperatures"... you're reading more into what was posted than what was posted.
I believe I said it would heat for 6-12 hours depending on quantity and quality of fuel load, heating demand, and whatnot.
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With the larger firebox of the DAKA, I can get an easy 10 hours with a big load of oak at sub-zero temperatures (I've never "filled" it, it would be too hot in here)... but the old box wasn't that big, so a "full" load of oak (10-12, maybe 13 splits depending) was required for 6 or 7 hours at sub-zero temps."
Chris-PA
Where the Wild Things Are
OK, I really don't care how the furnace compares to the Spectrum wood stove, it is apples-to-oranges and just makes digging through your claims a PITA.
So you are saying the firebox of the stove you had before the Spectrum held up to 13 splits? And you could put that much in the Spectrum too? Most of the secondary combustion stoves are not intended to have the firebox filled to the air manifold. Mine recommends only loading wood up to the top of the bricks - I fill it higher but not to the top.
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