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blsnelling said:
Actually I would liked to have seen them all buried in a log as well. Hey MoparMan. Are you against modding the muffler on your 5100? If not, we can mod it and then they'll all be muffler modded. We can retest them with the bars buried in a big log. One operator does all the cutting. Wouldn't it be a shame to have to GTG again and eat some more steak and shoot the breeze:)
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hmmmm, friends, saws, steak, beer, that sounds awful. I got off work at 4:00 today.....:cheers:
BTW Brad, you gonna eat with us this time? :poke:
 
To the nay sayers

I think WE pointed out the obvious, from the very beginning, how did you know the 5100 wasn't muff modded??? How did you know the others were??? There were no secrets here and every effort was made to make the test honest. All saws DID run the same bar and chain combos hell the 346 and 5100 ran THE SAME BAR AND CHAIN. The only reason the stihl ran different was because the bars wouldn't interchange.. if anything it hurt the Stihl since the chain was .063 gauge and not .050 like the others.

THEY ALL RAN STIHL RSC STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.. no hand filing, no angle changes, no bull schlit. THEY ALL made the same cuts in the same wood with different operators and the times were agreed upon by all.

The best part about this is I said, standing there in Nik's backyard before the first saw was ever even fired up, that folks here were gonna say the test wasn't fair and that we just wanted to make (insert your favorite brand) look bad/good.

We all have our favorite brands.. I'm a Stihl guy born and raised, Brad has a pretty good lean towards Stihl also, as does Nik, Mike is a Poulan fan (we don't hold that against him) Andy... I think Andy just likes saws in general :laugh:, but he has a stable of Huskys and Dolmars and doesn't own a Stihl.

The thing is we all pretty much call a turd a turd and are capable of testing a saw based on it's merits and not it's name tag... a Stihl didn't win here.

Nope NASA wasn't involved and nobody paid us for our testing so ya got what ya got, if ya can't accept it buy some saws and get to proving us wrong.
 
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Erick said:
To the nay sayers

I think WE pointed out the obvious, from the very beginning, how did you know the 5100 wasn't muff modded??? How did you know the others were??? There were no secrets here and every effort was made to make the test honest. All saws DID run the same bar and chain combos hell the 346 and 5100 ran THE SAME bar and chain. The only reason the stihl ran different was because the bars wouldn't interchange.. if anything it hurt the Stihl since the chain was .063 gauge and not .050 likr the others.

THEY ALL RAN STIHL RSC STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.. no hand filing, no angle changes, no bull schlit. THEY ALL made the same cuts in the same wood with different operators and the times were agreed upon by all.

The best part about this is I said, standing there in Nik's backyard before the first saw was ever even fired up, that folks here were gonna say the test wasn't fair and that we just wanted to make (insert your favorite brand) look bad/good.

We all have our favorite brands.. I'm a Stihl guy born and raised, Brad has a pretty good lean towards Stihl also, as does Nik, Mike is a Poulan fan (we don't hold that against him) Andy... I think Andy just likes saws in general :laugh:, but he has a stable of Huskys and Dolmars and doesn't own a Stihl.

The thing is we all pretty much call a turd a turd and are capable of testing a saw based on it's merits and not it's name tag... a Stihl didn't win here.

Nope NASA wasn't involved and nobody paid us for our testing so ya got what ya got, if ya can't accept it buy some saws and get to proving us wrong.
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the more I think about this, the more I think we never should have shared the times with anyone. Just the video, then they can argue over what saw ran what. We did everything we could to be fair and we all came to the same conclusions....
 
FATGUY said:
the more I think about this, the more I think we never should have shared the times with anyone. Just the video, then they can argue over what saw ran what. We did everything we could to be fair and we all came to the same conclusions....
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Naah. You'll always have your naysayers. That will never change. Whether the testing was perfect or not, there's still information to be gleaned.
 
FATGUY said:
the more I think about this, the more I think we never should have shared the times with anyone. Just the video, then they can argue over what saw ran what. We did everything we could to be fair and we all came to the same conclusions....
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Nahh, its still good for info for those who choose to accept it, and I had a hell of a time doing it. :cheers:
 
blsnelling said:
Naah. You'll always have your naysayers. That will never change. Whether the testing was perfect or not, there's still information to be gleaned.
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Yes, there is and you seemed awful giddy about the muffler modded/piston altered 346s beating the STOCK 5100 by a few tenths. :ices_rofl:

That's the only reason I chimed into your shindig. :givebeer:
 
I think you guys did a great job for what you had to work with, I think everyone realizes it would have been fantastic to have all bone stock saws. I realize that a couple of saws were modded way before hand. It's not like you muff modded it the night before to skew the tests.

You guys tested what you had to work with, I didn't expect anyone to sink a bunch of money in this to get everything back to stock. It wouldn't have mattered wether you posted the times or not there would have been arguing:laugh:

I personally don't care which saw won. I like Dolmars because they give a good bang for the buck. The 026 was the first real saw I ever used and personally like them and will have one when the price is right (the wife needs a saw:laugh:) I have never really had any real time on a Husky though I would love to. I guess I'm like Andy I just like saws.:D
 
blsnelling said:
Actually I would liked to have seen them all buried in a log as well. Hey MoparMan. Are you against modding the muffler on your 5100? If not, we can mod it and then they'll all be muffler modded. We can retest them with the bars buried in a big log. One operator does all the cutting. Wouldn't it be a shame to have to GTG again and eat some more steak and shoot the breeze:)
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Good Idea brad! If I were closer Id gladly let you take my 5100 and run it!
I could mail it to you but for the cost of shipping it , unless I wanted it ported then you could test it unported and ported! Not sure if I wanna tear it apart though!
 
mowoodchopper said:
Good Idea brad! If I were closer Id gladly let you take my 5100 and run it!
I could mail it to you but for the cost of shipping it , unless I wanted it ported then you could test it unported and ported! Not sure if I wanna tear it apart though!
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Bring it on. Never stopped me from tearing apart a brand new saw:hmm3grin2orange:
 
If anybody would like to send me a new in box representation of all three saws with both .325 and 3/8s pitch set ups in 16" and 20" complete with sprockets I'd be more than happy to test them for you.

Anybody???










Anybody???? :dunno:
 
Folks, it appears you had a good time. Congratulations.

The results are not surprising or all that interesting. The results were also poorly documented and the tests were poorly executed. Get over it.

You had fun and did some comparison runs. Next time leave the beer alone and do some testing if you want to be respected as testers and not a bunch of guys having fun.

I would suspect that the rest of this thread will turn into a buddy match and that does not test saws any better than what you did. I hope no one gets banned for being a dumb a$$ trying defend the un defend-able from the other sides buddies. GET OVER IT.

If you cannot afford to do the testing then do not offer to do it. If you do not have the equipment to do it then do not offer to do it. Just stop calling it testing, comparing, etc..

Call it fun for day followed by drinking and food.
 
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Justsaws said:
Folks, it appears you had a good time. Congratulations.

The results are not surprising or all that interesting. The results were also poorly documented and the tests were poorly executed. Get over it.

You had fun and did some comparison runs. Next time leave the beer alone and do some testing if you want to be respected as testers and not a bunch of guys having fun.

I would suspect that the rest of this thread will turn into a buddy match and that does not test saws any better than what you did. I hope no one gets banned for being a dumb a$$ trying defend the un defend-able from the other sides buddies. GET OVER IT.
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Sounds like a fair assesment to me. No appologies here though:) We had a good time!
 

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