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all exaggerated claims, or just the exaggerated claims pertaing to Dolamr?
Dolmar 5100S blew up.
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all exaggerated claims, or just the exaggerated claims pertaing to Dolamr?
Are you questioning the exact number or the obvious fact that their is indeed a problem with 5100S lean seizes? I don't have the time or interest to find all the posts but this in not new information, in fact when I joined AS a year or so ago I factored the problems in my decision to buy a 346XP over a 5100S. The Dolmar was alot cheaper and I have a servicing dealer local, I just chose to buy a saw that would run more than a couple of tanks before grenading. I have 10-12 tanks through my 346XP without a glitch and it was set very rich from the factory, around 12,500. Now muffler modded it turns 13900 and will thoroughly spank a 5100S, pulling 3/8 full chisel. Fact. I'd love t5o buy a 7900 but the total lack of dealer support and obvious problems with it's little brother have totally scared me away.
Scott
Scott
Well, if that's the real issue, which it seems to be, then it should be real simple for Dolmar to inform/instruct their dealer network thereof...on or off the record, and correct the issue before items leave the door.
I remember Lakeside sending out clear warning signals last year already about this topic. Seems he was spot on (as usual...)
I know Tommy.....I also should have known better than to join in, when blood is in the water....Try to give a little info about testing fuel so one can try to purchase a better quality product for their equipment.....and it's the same old, same old....Attacking and putting words in my mouth.
Once again, we degenerate into nothing more than a brand war. What does that accomplish for anyone? Come on now gentlemen!
Warroad50
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So what your saying I should have no problem finding a blown up 5100 on Ebay you know when I search for parts or repair saws I find lots of Huskys and Stihls but not so many Dolmars granted they are a small player in the market. So they must be burying them in the back yard.
There's far more than one Husky or Stihl that has melted down, homeowner or not if you pay any attention those these threads and know a few people and are honest. If any of these saws were adjusted rich enough they wouldn't melt down , I think occasional use saws like most homeowner saws AND the one on this thread have a way better chance of melting down after sitting for a while and the carb gets partially clogged. No a lot of saw owners don't tune the saws and quite a few dealers don't pull the caps and tune them either resulting in the melted down saws. Nothing wrong with the 5100s, just people who want to make it into something that it isn't. Steve
So what your saying I should have no problem finding a blown up 5100 on Ebay you know when I search for parts or repair saws I find lots of Huskys and Stihls but not so many Dolmars granted they are a small player in the market. So they must be burying them in the back yard.
And you're claiming that's proof that it's not a problem? They're often repaired under warranty. Puuulllleeeaaassseee!
Yeah, they don't sell very many of those so not alot of used ones available.
Seriously, not a brand war, I was looking at a Stihl MS460 today, quite spendy but I really want one. Dolmar on the other hand has displayed that they will not stand behind a product with an obvious problem and horrible track record. End of story for me.Scott
Big whip
.....I have easily a 120 tanks plus through my 5100 these last 3 years and have yet to burn it up so come up with something else to impress us.....Like some proof of "several dozen" that you know about. Not a handful on a AS that you heard about.THALL10326
The Champ
It is indeed the issue, Lake was well aware of it like me and most everyone else thats in the biz.
Some engines by design run much dirtier than others. To be sold here in the USA somehow they have to pass the EPA standards. I think the little 5100 is on par with the 200T as one of the very dirty running engines. Did I say the 200T was a dirty running saw, I sure did. The saws that run dirty tend to put out the most power. They have to be leaned way out to pass EPA. The factory has no say in the matter but the ole dealer can take his tach and screwdriver and put any saw within safe rpm levels for the time being. Word is going around thats about to stop as well but how they can police so many dealers is beyond me. I'm gonna set em at time of sale and thats that. Take me to jail I say,LOL
Statro is coming to save the day, till then set those older models at time of sale and be happy..
I know Tommy.....I also should have known better than to join in, when blood is in the water....Try to give a little info about testing fuel so one can try to purchase a better quality product for their equipment.....and it's the same old, same old....Attacking and putting words in my mouth.
Sorry if I came across that way. I probably did. I'm simply trying to make it clear that the root cause is the tuning, not the fuel. Of course, proper tuning does vary based on the fuel being used. If they're tuned on the absolute edge to meet emissions and then a higher dose of alcohol is used, and the dealer doesn't tune accordingly, you're going to have problems like this.
So what your saying I should have no problem finding a blown up 5100 on Ebay you know when I search for parts or repair saws I find lots of Huskys and Stihls but not so many Dolmars granted they are a small player in the market. So they must be burying them in the back yard.
Aint that the thruth, If I buy any new saw the caps come off and it gets adjusted right, sound like woodshed doesn't as he was afraid to buy a 5100s. Steve
Another ridicules, unfounded claim, that your sidekick just disputed by claiming they're covered under warranty.
Yeah, they don't sell very many of those so not alot of used ones available.
Scott
If it's not a brand war maybe you should quit bashing Dolmar. Steve
Not a sidekick, just like minded, sane, and I can think of 4 or 5 AS members that had 5100S blow up and not get covered. Stop making excuses, cold hard facts are making you look a little silly. Nice fanboy attitude by the way. :monkey:
Also, not bashing Dolmar, they make some really nice reliable saws, history has told us the 5100S is not one of them.
Scott
Also, not bashing Dolmar, they make some really nice reliable saws, history has told us the 5100S is not one of them.
Scott
This problem may be compounded by the lower price luring in less experienced customers that don't know when a saw is tuned properly or not. Anyone that doesn't listen to their saws and have something of an ear for a properly tuned engine, is subject to experience a failure like this. Just last week my 372 started going lean. I had a problem with a tank vent. If someone had been running it that didn't have a clue to proper tuning, it would have likely seized. It happens just that easily. So you take a saw that's tuned on the very edge, and voila. We have problems. Solution, tune them properly at the time of sale, just like Teflon Tommy says
TRI955
I'm the man in the box
Sure seems like there are alot of people getting their feelings hurt.....
in such case, we may consider to bail you out, but that's gonna cost you biiiiiiigggggtime...:greenchainsaw:
Another ridicules, unfounded claim, that your sidekick just disputed by claiming they're covered under warranty.
+1. Most that I've heard of were fixed under warranty. Getting there may have been a hastle, but it's usually resolved.
