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CedarRock

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I've been on Celebrex for the last couple of years for my joint pain (when needed).

The past 6 months my knees have been in non-stop pain so I was sent to a knee specialist who told me that I have Osteoarthritis. (Very common).

The knee specialist recommended that I try Glucosamine Hydrochloride with vitamin D, but said it would take a few weeks to kick in. He also recommed that I try Durolane injection in the knee (https://www.durolane.ca/web/about-durolane).

I'm going this Friday for the injections, not cheap ($400 per knee), but it will worth it to be knee pain free for six months.

Welcome to old(er) age.:laugh:

Let us know next week how you're doing. I have brother-in-laws that have had both knees replaced and one needs another one. If that injection will work, it may keep you from having it replaced.
 
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. But make no mistake, I will pay for it today.

Ain't that the truth! I did a multi-stemmed ash on Thursday, typical low-income property in a "cracker" neighborhood. Lots "stuff" all over the worksite, near the roof, and neighbors. Neighbors had a all sheet-metal gazebo very close too.

Lot's of up-down work to rig 90% of the tree out. The crown was too dirty to set a line, so I climbed it all. Been sitting on my but way too much lately :laugh:
 
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They are just cow tendon and ligaments ground up

I guess that's why it tastes like s*%t. :hmm3grin2orange:

The stuff I bought comes in liquid form. I'm sure I'll find a supplier that makes it in a gel cap once this bottle runs out. Thankfully I did'nt buy a bulk pack.:msp_rolleyes:




John Paul Sanborn; said:
Have you tried Tramadol?

No, but I'll ask my Doctor about it.

He said he could give me a cortizone shot but recommended the Durolane instead. The cortizone reduces the inflammation but does not address the problem, where as the Durolane restores the lubricating and shock-absorbing properties of joint fluid, which are depleted due to the osteoarthritis.

For my other joint issues, when they "flair up", the celebrex seems to do the trick.




CedarRock; said:
Let us know next week how you're doing. I have brother-in-laws that have had both knees replaced and one needs another one. If that injection will work, it may keep you from having it replaced.

I'll keep you guys updated. I get the shots tomorrow morning. Hopefully, with continued treatment, it will put off knee replacement for quite some time.

I'm also getting fitted for custom braces. More for sports and stuff. I'm going to bring in by spurs and boots to make sure they don't interfere, just in case I need them for climbing.

Thank god my benefit plan covers it. :msp_thumbup:
 
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kkottemann

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34 years old here...here is my list:
right shoulder- scoped once, complete reconstruction of AC joint
left shoulder- scoped twice
right foot- reconstructed
back- degenerative disk L4/L5

just have to manage it all....i still climb, and work in the woods everyday. have to train body to cope with the injuries. lots of core work, flexibility work. also bought all the light weight gear i could from ropes to spikes. good bed helps. Get the shoulder fixed soon, get your PT and keep going.

good luck
 
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Let us know next week how you're doing. I have brother-in-laws that have had both knees replaced and one needs another one. If that injection will work, it may keep you from having it replaced.

Been busy for quite some time, but I'd thought I'd up date.

Had the knee injections in march and they still hurt for a couple of weeks, but then the continual pain went away. Big differance. Apparently the injections last up to six months. I'm much happier now.:msp_thumbsup:
 
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at 54 I wake up in some sort of pain everyday. I used to have alot of numbness and tingling, back, neck, arms, fingers. I do not climb as much as I used to and most of these symptoms are gone. (plus i've put on 12lbs.) I found that working out, lifting weights, and drinking beer always made things bearable. When I first started out I had a one ton rack body and no chipper. I did a removal (by myself) and was loading limbs into the truck, pick up, twist and throw. The pain in my back was so bad I fell to my knees. I went home, laid down for an hour and contemplated my options. I knew my back wasn't broken so I went back and finished the job, slowly.
Doctors do not understand a tree guy. As I am sure most of you older guys can attest, if we ran to the md every time we had pain and numbness we never would have made it. We all have had to suck it up to support our families time and again. Tree work is not for every body, I've seen all types come and go.
 
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Doctors do not understand a tree guy. As I am sure most of you older guys can attest, if we ran to the md every time we had pain and numbness we never would have made it. We all have had to suck it up to support our families time and again. Tree work is not for every body, I've seen all types come and go.
It's true. My primary told me that I need to find some type of tree work I can do from the ground. I thought he was kidding but he wasn't. I told him you can't do tree work without climbing trees. He said "like they do on TV". Axmen, I guess. He's a great guy so I just let it slide but I really don't think they understand.
Phil
 
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58, in constant pain. I have learned to suck it up and live with it. I get jolted awake when my scapula rubs on my rib cage due to blown bursa. This came from pulling starter cords for over twenty years. I have started using electric chain saws, on occasion, and found some relief, but to be in the tree business as anything other than an office guy or crew manager who sits in the truck all day, is to experience pain. MD's exist to sell you pills, get you hooked on this or that. Other med support people use your pain to make their livings. Want to feel better? Get out of the biz, plain and simple. I have chronic chest pain from costochondritis, from climbing and pole sawing. I always say that if I had a heart attack, I would never know it until I'm laying there dying. Great fun. It's funny, actually, when I bust my butt all day long with no problem and then come home and sit on the couch or go to bed. Then it all hits me. BAM! Even my black and blue marks are on time delay: If I bash my leg with a branch, it takes 24-48 hours to show up. My MD has said that I have a very unusual metabolism. I guess my cave man ancestors had a decided advantage. When they got hurt, seriously or otherwise, they had a day or two to get away from the scene of the crime and find a place to lay up for recovery.
 
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at 54 I wake up in some sort of pain everyday. I used to have alot of numbness and tingling, back, neck, arms, fingers. I do not climb as much as I used to and most of these symptoms are gone. (plus i've put on 12lbs.) I found that working out, lifting weights, and drinking beer always made things bearable. When I first started out I had a one ton rack body and no chipper. I did a removal (by myself) and was loading limbs into the truck, pick up, twist and throw. The pain in my back was so bad I fell to my knees. I went home, laid down for an hour and contemplated my options. I knew my back wasn't broken so I went back and finished the job, slowly.
Doctors do not understand a tree guy. As I am sure most of you older guys can attest, if we ran to the md every time we had pain and numbness we never would have made it. We all have had to suck it up to support our families time and again. Tree work is not for every body, I've seen all types come and go.

I can identify with everything you have just said. Hang in there, as I do the same. This is a business that you either get, or you don't. Like you, I have seen so many come and go. Some guys literally don't last more than two hours. They're not necessarily wimps, they're just not tree men, no way, no how.
 
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58, in constant pain. I have learned to suck it up and live with it. I get jolted awake when my scapula rubs on my rib cage due to blown bursa. This came from pulling starter cords for over twenty years. I have started using electric chain saws, on occasion, and found some relief, but to be in the tree business as anything other than an office guy or crew manager who sits in the truck all day, is to experience pain. MD's exist to sell you pills, get you hooked on this or that. Other med support people use your pain to make their livings. Want to feel better? Get out of the biz, plain and simple. I have chronic chest pain from costochondritis, from climbing and pole sawing. I always say that if I had a heart attack, I would never know it until I'm laying there dying. Great fun. It's funny, actually, when I bust my butt all day long with no problem and then come home and sit on the couch or go to bed. Then it all hits me. BAM! Even my black and blue marks are on time delay: If I bash my leg with a branch, it takes 24-48 hours to show up. My MD has said that I have a very unusual metabolism. I guess my cave man ancestors had a decided advantage. When they got hurt, seriously or otherwise, they had a day or two to get away from the scene of the crime and find a place to lay up for recovery.

Stuff like this rarely gets mentioned to guys that want advice about getting into tree work. A 20 year old guy really can't imagine what a lifetime of physical work does to the body.
Phil
 
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I hope when I'm 58 I can get up and go to work. I'm 53 now, and when I get off of work, and get out of my car after a 45 min. drive home, I look like I'm a 180 years old, hunch over, limping to the couch.
You play you pay, every injury you ever had catches up with you around 50. " Mamma's don't let your babys grow up to be tree climbers."
 
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Stuff like this rarely gets mentioned to guys that want advice about getting into tree work. A 20 year old guy really can't imagine what a lifetime of physical work does to the body.
Phil

Excellent point. So many new guys, in here, just getting into our profession, ask about how they should go about getting this type of equipment or that type. They ask about various rope techniques, rigging, etc. The first subject they should be told about is that they are getting into a business that will break them down, physically, sooner or later, if it doesn't kill them, as it does to so many, year after year.
 
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I hope when I'm 58 I can get up and go to work. I'm 53 now, and when I get off of work, and get out of my car after a 45 min. drive home, I look like I'm a 180 years old, hunch over, limping to the couch.
You play you pay, every injury you ever had catches up with you around 50. " Mamma's don't let your babys grow up to be tree climbers."

:clap: I feel great when I first get home. I always tell myself that things are going well, I'm making money, that my aches and pains are gone. As long as the beer is cold and waiting, I can forestall the inevitable: The aches and pains come to call in the middle of the night, or the next day.
 
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For me anyway.
I eat dried seeds and nuts every day and no colas.
My suffering is far less than in my thirties.
You are what you eat, eat hard foods have a hard body.
Just now your teeth wear out.:D
 
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OH Boy, a pain thread ...

I'm going to be 64 in less than a month and I am the primary climber in my small tree service business.

It seems that once I got by 60 that the aches and pains of climbing tended to stay with me much longer than when I was 50.

At age 62, on November 18th, 2009 I crashed my motorcycle and had to be life flighted ($10,488 for the helicopter ride) to the Trauma Ward of the University Hospital here in Pittsburgh. I had a crushed chest with 11 broken bones (8 ribs, clavicle and scapula as well as my sternum) The worst part was my lacerated spleen which was causing me to bleed out internally.

I spent a week there and was out on a job (limited duty) the next week. I was back to climbing a couple of months after that, until I broke my L1 vertebra in June of 2010. Back to work after 3 days to finish the job I broke my back on.

Pain is a constant companion for me now, but I still climb. Mornings are the worst. The only time I actually feel good is when I'm climbing because my focus is so intense that the pain is ignored.
 
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pat_courchesne

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Got a surgery

So i got the surgery done on december 6th. Arthroscopic acromioplasty. Doin physio and startin to feel better now, at leist my right side anyways. Just thought i'd let some of you know. If anyone cares.

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