New MS440 - Feast Your Eyes!!!

[wigglesworth]

You got any pictures of the cylinder before porting?

No.

Thats a big bummer. I was looking forward to some cylinder pics.

Are they D-shape chambers or hemi?

 

[mdavlee]

I was hoping to see what the cylinder looked like too.

 

[wigglesworth]

I was hoping to see what the cylinder looked like too.

Im guessing we will, just not in stock form.

 

[dave k]

Brad that marking, is it visible next to the flywheel ? Is there any part # ?

 

[MacLaren]

Man, I cant wait to see what this new ported 440 is gonna do. Especially with the new Italian P/C.

 

[mdavlee]

I would like to see how they run stock with that cylinder vs mahle and the stihl cylinders that were on the last run of 440s. I would think there isn't a noticeable difference in them unless you take them apart and look at them.

 

[MacLaren]

I would like to see how they run stock with that cylinder vs mahle and the stihl cylinders that were on the last run of 440s. I would think there isn't a noticeable difference in them unless you take them apart and look at them.

Exactly. I would think the new P/C would be tit for tat with the Mahle. Maybee even a little nicer.......

 

[MacLaren]

Actually I wander if anyone on AS has compared both P/C in stock form? I would imagine Brad has.

 

[SawTroll]

Actually I wander if anyone on AS has compared both P/C in stock form? I would imagine Brad has.

I guess they still are the primitive 2-port design, unless Stihl opted to improve the new ones' My guees is that was the main reason that the MS440 didn't perform with the 372xp, despite more max hp - lack of really good top-end performance! :msp_confused:

 

[MacLaren]

I guess they still are the primitive 2-port design, unless Stihl opted to improve the new ones' My guees is that was the main reason that the MS440 didn't perform with the 372xp, despite more max hp - lack of really good top-end performance! :msp_confused:

Thats interesting. I wander if they did go with something new.

 

[SawTroll]

Thats interesting. I wander if they did go with something new.

I do as well! opcorn:

 

[mdavlee]

I wonder if the 461 has a gilardoni, mahle, or stihl cylinder? I would guess the 440 is still a 2 port transfer or Brad would have been posting pictures to show all of usopcorn:

 

[Wood Doctor]

The 046 is the more or less the same saw as the 460, minus flippy caps. There is a few minor differences. The tank vents, carbs, mufflers, combustion chamber size and shape are all different, mostly for the better. I'd take an 046 over a 460 any day.

Holy Cow! Thanks for the encouragement. I need to order a big and an expensive part, but it is available. This saw was run over by a moving 3,000 lb log that the logger could not stop, once in motion. The 046 Magnum stopped the log but the back end of the trigger handle was crushed and the sprocket housing lost a piece that flew out.

I can't weld the end of the handle but the engine still runs like a champion. Gotta fix it. Thanks again for the support. I ordered the parts today. :msp_wink:

 

[MCW]

I wonder if the 461 has a gilardoni, mahle, or stihl cylinder?

Probably a Chinastihl cylinder Nice to hear these 440's are running the Gilardoni though. Good news that is

 

[SawTroll]

I wonder if the 461 has a gilardoni, mahle, or stihl cylinder? I would guess the 440 is still a 2 port transfer or Brad would have been posting pictures to show all of usopcorn:

I also wonder about that!

Gilardoni is not Mahle, but pretty close - I hope it isn't generic Stihl.....

 

[blsnelling]

Sorry guys, but no more pics or vids of this saw. I simply don't have the time to do it like I have in the past. I'm no longer working from home, plus have to travel nearly 2 hours a day.

This Gilardoni cylinder was nice, but I have seen even nicer from Mahle. There was nothing to complain about here. It's way nicer than some Stihl castings.

 

[Johny Utah]

I was just thinking about replacing the 660..................................UNTILL you brought up the !@@##$$%^&*()________!!!!! flippy caps. I have not got over pouring gas mix all over my penis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks STHIL , THAT LEFT A MARK.

Why is it so hard for people to learn how to use flippy caps. It's not rocket science, push down and twist what's hard about that.

 

[shwinecat]

That's a USA 3/4 wrap. It's aftermarket and is not available as of right now. As mentioned, there is no alternative oiler. You have to mod the control bolt to get more oil. They list for $929 and I got this one for $829 with a 25" B&C.

Thanks as usual Brad. I appreciate the info and your time.

 

[dave k]

461 Stihl marked cyl. on my one anyway.

 

[wyk]

Why is it so hard for people to learn how to use flippy caps. It's not rocket science, push down and twist what's hard about that.

The hard part is when they fail. And they do, and there is a reason they were recalled on some products, and I won't be surprised if that recall becomes extended because the saw I had that failed was not on the recall list. They also wear much faster than standard screw on caps and become more difficult to tell if they are on right after a lot of use, and are more expensive to replace than standard caps until the aftermarket kicks in. And, the most annoying part of it all by far, is the fact it was a solution for a problem that didn't exist.