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So disagreeing and bashing is better?
WE need to get back on topic.
WE need to get back on topic.
How can you say ST "likely" knows more than him about saws?? Nobody knows who knows the most about anything anybody knows w/o knowing what that somebody "likely" really knows! Know what I mean, or do you just know what ST "likely" knows, or thinks he knows w/o knowing who knows more than he does? I bet I "likely" know the answer!
Don't you guys ever get tired of it? Jesus
Your problem! :msp_smile:
It would be boring if everyone agreed.
Truth is Saw Troll has never run or even seen a Stihl chainsaw in person.
So disagreeing and bashing is better?
WE need to get back on topic.
The question was a 441 cm or 461 it has nothing to do with husky!!! Lets help the guy decide which one of these saws will work beast for his needs and not bash the brand (ST) oh and MS 441 cm you will love
They are just not able to keep up with Husky's progress, and still have to depend on the "first generation" strato and AT stuff, that Husky sold them years ago....
The speculation is kind of pathetic, and takes away from good information from the threads. Kind of reminds me of an arm chair general.
He may, but the Stihl bashing really gets old after a while, like a couple of posts. He detracts threads time and time again. He is on these forums, 24/7. When does he ever cut any wood? Maybe he could grab hold of a Stihl 441 CM or a 460 and head out to the woods, use the saw, and report back to us with his findings? That would make more sense than the constant negativity. It would also give him more credibility. Turn over a new leaf in a new forest please.
The speculation is kind of pathetic, and takes away from good information from the threads. Kind of reminds me of an arm chair general.
He may, but the Stihl bashing really gets old after a while, like a couple of posts. He detracts threads time and time again. He is on these forums, 24/7. When does he ever cut any wood? Maybe he could grab hold of a Stihl 441 CM or a 460 and head out to the woods, use the saw, and report back to us with his findings? That would make more sense than the constant negativity. It would also give him more credibility. Turn over a new leaf in a new forest please.[/QUOTE
I respect ST as a person, and yes Andy, he's been here a hell of a long time, much longer than me, but this constant BS he spews has become more frequent, when is right to bash a saw a member just bought and is proud of. His opinions are like a broken record it is obvious he has never run half of the equipment he bashes, it's part of the European superioty complex, I been there and expierencied first hand, we're just a bunch of dang Yankee's that liberated their continent and knocked up there women, there is a miniority who don't exhibit this behavior but most do. It's obvoius that more and more of the new members have seen through the arm chair opinions and aren't going to keep their mouth shut. I obviously like my Stihls, for more than one reason, they mfg in the US, and I have the best dealer support a man could ask for, but I also would be open to running Husky given the same deals and support as well as Dolmar.
It's gotten to the point were respect is waning. Hell I proud of the guy who saved up enough to buy a 199.00 Poulan to keep his family warm, we all didn't start out with top end pro saws, not does everyone have the need for one. Give a man credit for just buying a saw and gettiing out and cutting his own wood irregardless of brand. I'd bet everything I own my little 028 has cut many more cord of wood than ST has ever thought about cutting, sometimes silence will earn a hell of a lot more respect.
well you've been here what two months. ST has been a valuable member longer than I have. Sorry you don't have a clue, one of his all time favorite saws is a ms361.
Theres not a thing wrong with giving someone another perspective. Hell, a 390xp will outcut all of them honestly. But thats beside the point.
I love my 441C and thats the one I would pick over the 461. But I also love my 372xp. Brand bias leads to blindness.
I have been cutting wood for 40 years. It shouldn't matter if I have been here since 2004 like you, or 2 months. I simply made mention of his constant bashing of Stihl saws was getting old. And yes, I noticed that in my short time here. Go figure. As I stated, before he makes any more negative comments on any saws, let him get a hold of the saw, go out and actually cut wood with it use it, and then report back on his experiences. It really would give him more credibility. AS it stands right now, he looks like an old disgruntaled man who is nit picking and commenting negatively on every Stihl saw there is, except for his favorite MS 361. He needs to get a life.
The above post by indianspring is very eloquently stated and I agree wholeheartedly. And for the record, I have a Stihl and a Husqvarna.
Now, lets get back on TOPIC. The question was "Stihl MS-441CM or MS-461?"
He may, but the Stihl bashing really gets old after a while, like a couple of posts. He detracts threads time and time again. He is on these forums, 24/7. When does he ever cut any wood? Maybe he could grab hold of a Stihl 441 CM or a 460 and head out to the woods, use the saw, and report back to us with his findings? That would make more sense than the constant negativity. It would also give him more credibility. Turn over a new leaf in a new forest please.[/QUOTE
I respect ST as a person, and yes Andy, he's been here a hell of a long time, much longer than me, but this constant BS he spews has become more frequent, when is right to bash a saw a member just bought and is proud of. His opinions are like a broken record it is obvious he has never run half of the equipment he bashes, it's part of the European superioty complex, I been there and expierencied first hand, we're just a bunch of dang Yankee's that liberated their continent and knocked up there women, there is a miniority who don't exhibit this behavior but most do. It's obvoius that more and more of the new members have seen through the arm chair opinions and aren't going to keep their mouth shut. I obviously like my Stihls, for more than one reason, they mfg in the US, and I have the best dealer support a man could ask for, but I also would be open to running Husky given the same deals and support as well as Dolmar.
It's gotten to the point were respect is waning. Hell I proud of the guy who saved up enough to buy a 199.00 Poulan to keep his family warm, we all didn't start out with top end pro saws, not does everyone have the need for one. Give a man credit for just buying a saw and gettiing out and cutting his own wood irregardless of brand. I'd bet everything I own my little 028 has cut many more cord of wood than ST has ever thought about cutting, sometimes silence will earn a hell of a lot more respect.
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