i kinda want a mod saw. I got this craftsman for free would it be worth while?

[angry inch]

Would it be good idea to do some muffler work on this/ if so how and what do you do. FIL gave me this and another saw a few weeks back finally got around to doing something other than moving and taking pictures of them. This one the muffler is really loose and seems to be missing some parts? Back handle is about to fall off to thing must vibrate something fierce? Just wondering if anyone has some advice. I need something to do.

 

[Chris-PA]

It looks like the muffler has already been modified by removing the screws and the tubes they go through, leaving only the lower inside bolt to hold it on. That just isn't going to work structurally.

The rear A/V spring is missing. That is common too. They are not expensive.

Check the 4 bolts that hold the engine in as well, they can loosen up. The engines are not particularly rough but those fasteners needed some kind of locking hardware.

Last, that chain (33SL) is near impossible to cut with if the shark fin bumpers are on it. It works OK if you grind them off and sharpen it well, but a loop of 20BPX or LPX has taller cutters and cuts much better.

 

[angry inch]

it hasent been modified the FIL told me it fell offl lol. looking at a print online it looks like a screen nut are missing. i saw a thread about doing a stihl muffler would it be the same? View attachment 267117 missing # 12, 13

 

[Chris-PA]

OK - something doesn't look right but it might just be the picture. My 2775 has a Type1 muffler which is different and simpler. This one does not appear to use the lower 3rd screw, so maybe the original two upper screws really are still there. Just pull it off and see what's happening - you'll want to look at the piston anyway.

 

[angry inch]

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Not looking to good. Kind of looks like the piston is scored? Apparently taking care of stuff isn’t his thing. Looks to me the air filter never got cleaned ever. I think this saw is a 2002? He said he quit running it three years ago. I sure hope he treats that Makita a lot better.

 

[Chris-PA]

Yuck. There looks to be something missing in the muffler. I think there were tubes of some kind that the screws were in, and without them they didn't really hold much on. The piston does look scored - maybe rotate the piston down a little so is shows the ring? Bummer.

 

[zogger]

Parts saw. zillion of them saws out there in better shape for not many dineros.

If you want, sure, take it all down, inspect the jug, get a new piston, etc., if the cylinder will clean up OK. At a minimum that piston is junk.

 

[angry inch]

I’m kind of having fun now! the kids are being good so i get a few min. at a time. My wife is going to be pissed took it apart in the entry way, but at least I cleaned up some old junk about halfway through taking this thing apart. (I was supposed to do that any way) :tongue2: How do you get rid of gas smell kind of quick? LOL
But any way not worth a new piston?
Thing looks like it’s in ok shape just filthy. I think she will cut a lot more wood with some TLC. This site is kind of getting to me. Reading about all you guys having fun with working on saws. I think I need a saw shed so I don’t have this smell in the house.
Now I need to get the clutch off would rope in the plug hole work to safely lock up the motor? And what kind of tool could one use to turn the clutch?
its hard to take a picture of the piston my camera trys to focus elsewhere.
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[milkman]

I’m kind of having fun now! the kids are being good so i get a few min. at a time. My wife is going to be pissed took it apart in the entry way, but at least I cleaned up some old junk about halfway through taking this thing apart. (I was supposed to do that any way) :tongue2: How do you get rid of gas smell kind of quick? LOL
But any way not worth a new piston?
Thing looks like it’s in ok shape just filthy. I think she will cut a lot more wood with some TLC. This site is kind of getting to me. Reading about all you guys having fun with working on saws. I think I need a saw shed so I don’t have this smell in the house.
Now I need to get the clutch off would rope in the plug hole work to safely lock up the motor? And what kind of tool could one use to turn the clutch?
its hard to take a picture of the piston my camera trys to focus elsewhere.
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I've got an idea, but she'll still be POed at you, unless you can blame it on the dog.:msp_smile:

 

[angry inch]

i made the kids a pizza that helped.:msp_smile: cover the smell

 

[sefh3]

Through the thing in the dishwasher. Remove the fuel and oil first. Eliminates the smell. She won't know the difference until she unloads the dishwasher.

 

[Chris-PA]

LOL - she'll know anyway! How bad is that mark on the left side? There are a whole bunch of different models of this same basic saw and they come up on the big auction site regularly. Of course I got burned buying one that was supposedly rebuildable and was a complete roach. Engines come up too. If you want to play:

I made a clutch tool out of some steel stock and a couple of cut off 1/4" bolts - I think they are on 1" centers but not sure anymore. Remember to follow the on/off direction markings, they're left hand. I use rope.

For the flywheel use a socket on an impact wrench to loosen the nut. Back the nut off until it is just above the end of the crank. Hold the saw by the flywheel and whack the nut with a soft blow hammer, or set a slug of copper or brass on it and hit that. It's a juggling act.

Once it's apart you can see how bad it is. Maybe the cylinder can be cleaned and a new piston and ring kit is pretty cheap. They are simple saws and easy to work on and there's little to loose - might be entertaining. With good chain they are actually really nice saws to run, and I like mine a lot.

To put it back together you'll need sealant for the engine parts - I picked up a tube of Yamabond at the local dealer for about $10. There are other choices too.

 

[excess650]

If it has a chrome or niksail plated bore, you have a chance. If its a plain aluminum bore and scored, its :censored:junk. Assuming a plated bore, if you clean up the aluminum transfer, you might get by with a re-ring if its not too bad. Less $ yet would be to clean up the piston, ring groove and ring and reassemble.

I have a Crapsman(Poulan) that I bought at a yardsale for not much $. The guy was moving (foreclosed) and told me the oiler didn't work, but it did start (I fired it up). I just paid him what he was asking and preceeded to abuse it for whatever lousy applications that I needed a chainsaw for. The oiler DID work and the engine still runs! IIRC, it was a 42cc cheapy without any antivibe, but it has paid for itself numerous times over.

Did it run before you tore it down? Did you check the compression?

 

[Chris-PA]

It's chrome.

 

[angry inch]

If it has a chrome or niksail plated bore, you have a chance. If its a plain aluminum bore and scored, its :censored:junk. Assuming a plated bore, if you clean up the aluminum transfer, you might get by with a re-ring if its not too bad. Less $ yet would be to clean up the piston, ring groove and ring and reassemble.

I have a Crapsman(Poulan) that I bought at a yardsale for not much $. The guy was moving (foreclosed) and told me the oiler didn't work, but it did start (I fired it up). I just paid him what he was asking and preceeded to abuse it for whatever lousy applications that I needed a chainsaw for. The oiler DID work and the engine still runs! IIRC, it was a 42cc cheapy without any antivibe, but it has paid for itself numerous times over.

Did it run before you tore it down? Did you check the compression?

well I never tried I was just going to look at the muffler then I got deeper from there.:eek2: it wouldn’t be hard to pop it back together and put some gas in her and give it a try. The muffler is missing most of the pieces but I could just see if she would pop. It dint really feel like it had much compression, not like my 165.

 

[excess650]

If its scored enough to stick the ring(s) it won't have much compression. You may as well have at it as it'll be inexpensive fun and a learning experience.

I use rope for a piston stop. Rotate the flywheel forward and drop the piston in the cylinder. Insert rope into the sparkplug hole and keep feeding it until it wont take more. Rotate the flywheel forward and the piston will try to compress the rope and effectively stop the piston. The clutch should be LH thread....remember to TIGHTEN the clutch prior to firing up without a bar & chain or else risk the clutch rolling off at high speed.:monkey:

 

[angry inch]

Well wife came home early dint get my mess cleaned up. Kind of felt like a kid getting caught by parent. Lol
but she’s forgiving and actually took some pictures for me cuz my hands were dirty (dint want to mess up my new camera) well I would say it would have probably run as is but for about 80 bucks I can get a new crank case and piston/ring from sears. I can’t really buy a saw for that and this is fun. Wish I was at work though got a parts washer there. i would not recomend doing this in the house but what the heck its cold outside. i did have one of those old portible dish washers wish i would have kept it around that would have cleaned her up!


View attachment 267150View attachment 267151View attachment 267152View attachment 267153 Also I found out a spanner for an imitation Makita grinder fits perfectly to pull off the clutch.

 

[excess650]

You should be able to clean it up, put it back together, and run it. Save the $80 unless you have money to burn.

 

[Chris-PA]

Busted! They are fun to work on. You will have to deal with the muffler too.

 

[angry inch]

You should be able to clean it up, put it back together, and run it. Save the $80 unless you have money to burn.

I got it tore apart i mite as well put new crap in it. The more i look at the more i think this will not last.
I am the kinde of person that if i am going to do something i am going to do it as i see rite. To justify this i just remember all times i spent more for less. If this thing works for a year i will be entertained. Plus i found a cheeper site and its only $78.00 that makes it better