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I was watching this saw just to see if anyone was going to bid. The price seems waaaaaay high. And I think I do see a decomp valve on the top????!!! . . . so, I think it might just be a 90. Or a 90 cyl on a frankensaw, you guys are right about the lack of badges. Shouldn't there be a sticker on the av arm above the clutch with a model number?

These days if you want that kinda money, you take the exhaust off and show the piston at least....along with a compression #....he'll never get that price I don't believe. Yes, should be a sticker on that AV arm and something left in the center of the recoil housing.

Kevin
 
LOL!! And I love this one where he states "There's nothing wrong with the parts" LOL!! Which parts??? everything looks pretty beat to me...maybe some good screws..maybe...LOL!!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-Jonser...703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35d2379137
But I see a decomp on that top....that's why I think it's a 90. If you look at all the pics, there is something on top other than the spark plug boot. Very 'odd' ad...I'm not demeaning the owner, just wondering how he forgot the model # and where the hell are all the stickers?

Kevin
Nope....what you're seeing is part of the broken, bolt on plastic sparkplug cover.......the hole for the decomp is located forward of the sparkplug and to the left side...centered on the recoil cover....it has the flat plastic plug ( part # 504 042 03) in it that came on the 801. Look closer...go up in mag...third pic...decomp sticks up beyond the top even depressed. 801 is identical to the 90 except it has an 80 cyl with no decomp so they made a plug to fill the hole. I mean it could be a 90 with no decomp and an 801 plug to fill the hole but my money says it's an 801......LOL!!
 
Wow...that's a sad story...especially when you paid appropriately for what you thought was a much better condition saw. At least your brought it back to life. There were a lot of Jonny saws sold around here back in the day...especially popular was the 70E. For whatever reason, I just never see them....probably most of them have already changed hands and don't come up for sale much on CL/garage sales. Maybe most hit ebay now.

Kevin
Well the 70E was more modern than the 80/90 and not as nearly as tuff...many got scrapped when the plastic fan exploded or the SEM module died and new OEM replacement parts were no longer dealer available. Hard to beat an alum fan and points ign for longevity.....compared to plastics an electronics.....
 
Ok........Now that I whined so much about the 70......here is a success story from ebay.....averages everything out..LOL!! These are pics of my ebay 80 that I got a couple yrs ago.....sorry no "before" pics....I paid $45 for this saw....plus $20 shipping....so $65 total.....but it was ugly...trigger handle was crushed....top handle AV mounts torn out and a bunch of other problem you could see from the pics.. I had no other 80s at the time and assumed this would just be a parts saw for my future 80. It showed up and in 3 hrs it was like it is in the pics....never left the shop to buy anything. That was when I learned how interchangeable older Jonsereds parts were between models......the trigger handle is from a 49sp.....just had to take it apart and change the linkage to the 80 linkage....AV mounts are from a 49sp as well....the only problem that I could not fix was the PTO side case was broken at the top of the spikes....someone "farmer fixed" it......It started third pull....ran well..idled etc.......the next day I comp tested it....238 psi......and still reads the same today....I have not rebuilt the carb...addressed the points, had the cyl off or done anything else to the saw.........LOL!! the old 24" Oregon bar is actually from the 70E..it came with a very rusty looking 18" Winsor......ugly but is actually in very good condition....tip is tight....groove is consistant....good bar but I like the 24" on the 80......this the saw I grab when cutting 3' ash.......just awesome....no slowing this unit down....24" full comp chisel...Note it still has001.JPG 002.JPG 004.JPG 007.JPG 008.JPG the original clip on sparkplug cover!!! LOL!!
 
Love me a nice old 80....like a drug.:p Yeah....I knew something wasn't right about that pic and the decomp. Even though it looks like a decomp, it's in the wrong place. So it has to be an 801. I knew some things I could borrow from the 70, but wasn't sure what. I had some plastic bottom handles for awhile, while I searched for a new plastic stabilizer wing. Got the wing OE and then put the metal handle back to it. There was a little variation and funny biz with those handles from all the models, because even though they fit, they were not what came on the 80 stock.

That's not really a good recommendation for the 70E as opposed to the 80/points. It was like after 13yrs I went inside that points cover on the 80 and checked the points. You can't really beat that for service life, even opposed to a electronic set-up which IMO, will be more likely to fail.

LOL!! And I love this one where he states "There's nothing wrong with the parts" LOL!! Which parts??? everything looks pretty beat to me...maybe some good screws..maybe...LOL!!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-Jonser...703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35d2379137

Yeah sure....that's about $5 worth of "parts"....probably been in a box for ten yrs, or he took some junk like that in trade.

Kevin
 
Yeah the 70E is a bit faster and more high performance than the 80 in wood up to 20" or so...also a tad lighter..but still an old school Jonsereds......just not as heavy duty...basically a saw in between real old designs and the more modern 670 etc....part of the history....I have a soft spot for the 70E......used one 4-5 winters cutting big white pine saw logs.....we also had a couple great older 80s and a few 52/52E and 49 sp saws we used for limbing......Jonsereds ruled the roost here in "The pine Tree State" back in the day....then they started making those 4XX and 5XX saws.....with the exception of the 451E/EV, the 490 and 590 all the rest were just junk....notice I have none in my sig.....not an accident...
 
I've owned a few jonsereds from new. A 2054 turbo and a 2045 but I've always liked the older saws. I had no idea how scarce the parts are until I started working on this 90.
 
I've owned a few jonsereds from new. A 2054 turbo and a 2045 but I've always liked the older saws. I had no idea how scarce the parts are until I started working on this 90.

Basically no dealer support for any true Jonsereds......recoil springs and spark plugs are about all that can be bought new from a dealer for these old saws.....everything else is going to be used or from small stashes of NOS parts found on ebay or old saw shops going out of business etc. Makes it impossible to use these saws on a daily basis to put food on the table, though most will still do a good days work....a breakdown can put as saw out of production for days/weeks/months waiting for parts....but puts a little more sport into the collecting/rebuilding/restoring of these grand old saws. I paid dearly for the parts I needed for that 70E, in time searching for stuff and money spent. The last thing I found for it was a NOS SEM module....$65...grabbed it because these are nearly impossible to find new and I wanted a new ign to go with the new P&C, bearings etc. though I have several spare used modules for a couple more 70E builds and I also am planning a 66E build just to add to the collection.....LOL!!!
 
Man...I've been searching an hr online for thin gasket material and my eyes are bleeding.:confused:
The news ain't good...this is highly specialized, commercial app stuff with minimum orders of $100+....if you can even find it. I can find 1/64 at most box stores online which is 0.0156. I even searched the bay without success. Gaskets this thin I always ordered OE....but that's impossible now with the 80/90 etc. If anyone finds stock around 0.010, PLEASE speak up! Read all kinds of articles about using brown paper bags, printer paper and the like...even coating them with gasket shellac so they hold up better. I think not for this application....need OE gaskets or the correct sheet material.

Maybe we should consider copper sheet, shim material of the right thickness? Don't know how to figure compression factor though with that stuff...trail & error I guess.

Kevin

Kevin, I don't know if this applies to the Jred base gasket material that you're needing, but FWIW in the Poulan sticky several guys chipped in for $ome $pecial ga$ket material to cut their own oiler gaskets. I'm pretty sure they needed the thin material.

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Did any of y'all see this one? I'm thinking it's a 90 because of the decomp. It's pretty much just a carcass, but might be worth it if the bidding stays low.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261401779279?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
 
Kevin, I don't know if this applies to the Jred base gasket material that you're needing, but FWIW in the Poulan sticky several guys chipped in for $ome $pecial ga$ket material to cut their own oiler gaskets. I'm pretty sure they needed the thin material.

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Did any of y'all see this one? I'm thinking it's a 90 because of the decomp. It's pretty much just a carcass, but might be worth it if the bidding stays low.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261401779279?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Thanks CJ, I'm watching this one. Looks like it has some parts on it and I wouldn't mind having it on the shelf if the price is right.
 
Basically no dealer support for any true Jonsereds......recoil springs and spark plugs are about all that can be bought new from a dealer for these old saws.....everything else is going to be used or from small stashes of NOS parts found on ebay or old saw shops going out of business etc. Makes it impossible to use these saws on a daily basis to put food on the table, though most will still do a good days work....a breakdown can put as saw out of production for days/weeks/months waiting for parts....but puts a little more sport into the collecting/rebuilding/restoring of these grand old saws. I paid dearly for the parts I needed for that 70E, in time searching for stuff and money spent. The last thing I found for it was a NOS SEM module....$65...grabbed it because these are nearly impossible to find new and I wanted a new ign to go with the new P&C, bearings etc. though I have several spare used modules for a couple more 70E builds and I also am planning a 66E build just to add to the collection.....LOL!!!

The 49's and 52's seem to a bit easier to discover. I've had this 90 for 3 or 4 years and just now decided to work on it. Now that I'm looking for parts, I don't believe I've seen more than a handfull of 90's between ebay and craigslist. It certainly does make it a bit of a sport finding parts and that's not necessarily a bad thing for me.
 
Thanks CJ, I'm watching this one. Looks like it has some parts on it and I wouldn't mind having it on the shelf if the price is right.

It'd be really nice to find that the P&C are in good shape. I had a Jred 625 that had been stripped pretty much bare, but much to my pleasant surprise the P&C just needed a little Kroil and a few hours in the Texas sunshine :clap:.
 
I've owned a few jonsereds from new. A 2054 turbo and a 2045 but I've always liked the older saws. I had no idea how scarce the parts are until I started working on this 90.

I looked for YEARS for a decent 90. I was even gonna convert my 80, but all the parts to make it look right as well were around $200. And ebay at the time had all the parts, including the piston & jug. Drug my feet and thought that was ridiculous price-wise and of course the parts disappeared off ebay. What's sometime interesting about ebay is that you can go yrs without seeing something and then see two of them in one week.

Anyway, a very dirty, complete, non-running 90 from Arkansas presented itself on ebay. Like Robin, I took a chance. Once cleaned up, I realized I had a low hr peach. But the owner had left gas in it for yrs. Worst case of varnish I ever saw....I think I wound up using BB's and lacquer thinner...but tried a lot of stuff in there. A few critical holes were stripped out by the dumb PO and that cost...but only because I always use the steel inserts. Best runnin' saw in the stable @present.

So now as just a experienced knee-jerk reaction, I buy parts whenever I see them and can afford them.

Kevin
 
Kevin, I don't know if this applies to the Jred base gasket material that you're needing, but FWIW in the Poulan sticky several guys chipped in for $ome $pecial ga$ket material to cut their own oiler gaskets. I'm pretty sure they needed the thin material.

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Did any of y'all see this one? I'm thinking it's a 90 because of the decomp. It's pretty much just a carcass, but might be worth it if the bidding stays low.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261401779279?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Is a 90 because of the decomp & the filter. Man, that looks rough...but then it could be just dirty...l don't think so though. You buy a parts saw like this especially for the piston & jug, yet nothing is pictured or mentioned of that.

Chris...would you please give me some contact info for the guys that have the thin gasket material?

Kevin
 

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