I agree. I've got a Mastermind ported MS461 that is an animal as is in big wood. It normally wears a 25" and occasionally pulls 32" B&C. However, I've been cutting alot of <20" wood, so I've got an 8 pin rim on order to use with my 20" bar on it. This should be a killer combo!IMHO, a well built saw should have an excellent combination of both. I see them as mutually exclusive. If a saw is all torque, then it falls short in my books. If it's all RPMs, the it can't pull those RPMs in the cut, 2so it misses the mark again. I'm not happy until I achieve both.