torque vs chainspeed

[Grey]

IMHO, a well built saw should have an excellent combination of both. I see them as mutually exclusive. If a saw is all torque, then it falls short in my books. If it's all RPMs, the it can't pull those RPMs in the cut, 2so it misses the mark again. I'm not happy until I achieve both.

I agree. I've got a Mastermind ported MS461 that is an animal as is in big wood. It normally wears a 25" and occasionally pulls 32" B&C. However, I've been cutting alot of <20" wood, so I've got an 8 pin rim on order to use with my 20" bar on it. This should be a killer combo!

 

[redfin]

torque is measured by rearward motion of your feet, when applying angle to morning wood.

Could also be measured from pressure of toes on floor and hand on wall.

 

[HuskStihl]

The variables positions are not interchangeable in the equation. The way you presented torque and horsepower is completely wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

You can have torque with 0 horsepower, but you cannot have horsepower with 0 torque.

You can have static torque with no power, but we're talking about dynamic torque

 

[barneyrb]

Thomas has the formula correct. You cannot measure HP, it is ALWAYS a calculated number and torque is a MEASURED number.

 

[thomas1]

You can have static torque with no power, but we're talking about dynamic torque

Once you got the horsepower calculation all ass backwards and stuff I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about.

 

[Gypo Logger]

What kind of RPM they turning?

FourPaws says 60 rpm, but isn't sure about ft/lbs.
John

 

[thomas1]

FourPaws says 60 rpm, but isn't sure about ft/lbs.
John

What if you raised their transfers a couple degrees?

 

[Gypo Logger]

torque is measured by rearward motion of your feet, when applying angle to morning wood.

What would the torque increase be if the morning wood hits the wood stove?
John

 

[RandyMac]

What would the torque increase be if the morning wood hits the wood stove?
John

discount for lack of traction

why would you piss on the stove?

 

[Gypo Logger]

Could also be measured from pressure of toes on floor and hand on wall.

Very true, however, how much torque is lost when the fist flies off and hits you in the forehead?
John

 

[HuskStihl]

I must defer to a smarter bear

 

[Mastermind]

So......we have defined Torque.

What is Chainspeed?

Sounds like a heavy metal/punk retro group.

 

[cuttinties]

So......we have defined Torque.

What is Chainspeed?

Sounds like a heavy metal/punk retro group.

Chain speed is the byproduct of sprocket size in relationship to piston travel. Piston speed will typically have a positive correlation with chain speed. Piston speed is affected by stroke.

 

[Chris-PA]

We have a linear equation with three variables and a constant.

I give ya credit for trying my friend, but it's hopeless.

 

[RandyMac]

Chain speed is the byproduct of sprocket size in relationship to piston travel. Piston speed will typically have a positive correlation with chain speed. Piston speed is affected by stroke.

are you kidding?

 

[old-cat]

This whole discussion is irrelevant unless you give that chainsaw critter an adequate supply of bananas.

 

[thomas1]

I give ya credit for trying my friend, but it's hopeless.

You mean trying to use an equation as the basis for your argument, when you have the equation completely wrong?

 

[fordf150]

Are we really debating how hp is calculated

 

[thomas1]

Are we really debating how hp is calculated

No, we just have people that are wrong.

Close. Torque= HP x 5252/RPM
Torque isn't irrelevant, in the case of an engine it isn't an independent variable. You don't run your car on a power dyno, then switch over to a torque dyno. The only things that matter are what power is produced and at what rpm. "Torque" is simply a linear mathematical formula based on the above variables and a fixed constant (5252). "Torque" is increased by either increasing the power, or producing the power at a lower RPM.

 

[Chris-PA]

You mean trying to use an equation as the basis for your argument, when you have the equation completely wrong?

No, I mean that if the most basic of algebraic manipulations has befuddled you then there is no basis for discussion:

You have torque and horsepower in the wrong positions of your equation.

The variables positions are not interchangeable in the equation. The way you presented torque and horsepower is completely wrong.

HP = Torque x rpm X 1/5252 is the same equation as Torque= HP x 5252/RPM

No, we just have people that are wrong.

We certainly do