Is this Shagbark Hickory?

[Peacock]

Which one is Pecon as Pecon is in the Hickory family

But isn't a true hickory.

 

[Sethro]

But isn't a true hickory.

What is a true Carya? I think there is around 10 species of Hickory in the states

 

[Peacock]

Either way, it isn't mockernut, pignut or any of the other mentioned hickory's.

Pecan is rare around here, but the leaves are the smallest of any hickory I can recollect.

 

[PA Plumber]

We have 4 types of Hickory in our area. Mockernut, Pignut, Shagbark, and Shell Bark. The Mockernut bark kind of reminds me of Ash. The Pignut has a tighter bark than Mockernut.

Yesterday I helped a friend get a 6 1/2 foot section of Mockernut that came down from ice buildup. He is just starting to build self bows. Beautiful dark heartwood. Very white under the bark. Nice stuff. Brutally heavy!

I don't know anything about Pecan. (Except they are one of my favorite nuts for consumption.) I haven't seen them around here.

I was referring to the above post. Seems the Mockernut has the tighter bark.

 

[ropensaddle]

Quercus alba or white oak is my verdict.

 

[PA Plumber]

Here are a couple of Pics of what I believe to be Mockernut...

He used Elmer's wood glue to seal the ends after we quartered the log out.

The log is muddy because I had to use the 4-wheeler to drag it about 5/8 of a mile. Too wet to get the truck back into this part of the woods.

 

[Peacock]

I'd have to agree that it's hickory. Not any ash with that heartwood.

 

[ciscoguy01]

Odd

This is very odd. At first glance I'd swear it was shagbark, however, the grain is definitely more like an oak. The only shagbark I've ever found has been hollow. When looking at the bark of a shagbark hickory it's telltale sign of of the bark being in very broken/thin long sections gives it away. Oak DOES NOT EVER HAVE LONG THIN SECTIONS THAT ARE LIKE THIN STRIPS AND LAYERS ON THE TREE. For this reason I'm going to say it is the shagbark hickory. I've got about 3 f/cord of it sitting on my back deck right now from 2 of them I cut about 3 weeks ago. Attached are some pics for you guys. Look at the bark, it's VERY distinctive. Oak can get a little thin and one year I cut around $50k worth of red and white oak for veneer. I'd think that with that amount I'da run into something that was similar. I won't say anyone is wrong, but everything that I can see from your pics tells me it's shagbark... Look at the similarities in my pics with the bark to Longwood's...

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[Peacock]

Oak DOES NOT EVER HAVE LONG THIN SECTIONS THAT ARE LIKE THIN STRIPS AND LAYERS ON THE TREE.

Yes, white oak does. I see it on most mature trees 20-30ft up the trunk.

There is one 30ft from my parents house right now.

 

[ehgauss]

Shagnut Hickory

I had three trees along my driveway with bark that looked exactly like that. Took one down a year ago to use it for firewood. The outer wood was light colored, and the inner a reddish-golden color. Both of those characteristics are identical to your photos. Those trees all dropped hickory nuts on my driveway each fall. White oak around here has a much tighter bark, but does seem to have the bicolor heart wood. Those trees drop acorns with a cap that almost completely enshrouds the hull, leaving only a small tip sticking out the bottom. I do have a few oaks that have a very shaggy bark, but the shape of the shags is rounder, not as long and thin. I call those burr oaks, but I'm not sure that's a correct name. I wouldn't bet my pension on it, but to me that's shagbark hickory. Gene Gauss

 

[Woodie]

I will admit, I have trouble with Green Ash and Mockernut Hickory when there aren't any leaves present.

I could see that being an issue. Around here the green ash typically grow like silver maple. Many branches. White ash is a long trunk and few branches.

It's easy as hell to tell the difference between ash and hickory here in SE Michigan.

If the tree is still alive, it ain't ash!

 

[Woodie]

White oak around here has a much tighter bark, but does seem to have the bicolor heart wood. Those trees drop acorns with a cap that almost completely enshrouds the hull, leaving only a small tip sticking out the bottom.

You gotta remember, too...the term "white oak" is often used to mean any of some 20 or so varieties of oak, so it's sometimes tough to compare one to another. Same with red oak.

 

[gregz]

Here is a couple pics of what I was told is shagbark hickory. As you can see not much life left for them . :angry2:

 

[stihl 440]

white oak

Yesterday I cut wood this and posted some pics thinking it was Oak. After thinking about it and looking a some tree websites I'm now thinking its Shagbark Hickory. It was a dead,very old, huge tree with at least a 5ft dia. trunk.
Can you guys look at this pic of the bark and tell if its Shagbark Hickory?

Thanks in advance,
Longwood

That is white oak, no doubt about it. I cut too much of the stuff to not know what it is. Shagbark hickory will have bark protrudeing up at curves at chest height.:greenchainsaw:

 

[PA Plumber]

White Oak. The bark towards the top of the tree is starting to look similar to what was posted at the beginning of this thread.

 

[ciscoguy01]

Odd

Yes, white oak does. I see it on most mature trees 20-30ft up the trunk.

There is one 30ft from my parents house right now.

Thats very odd bro... I've never seen it like that, it's always been a smoother bark thats not layered. Can you take a pic for me??? I'd appreciate seeing that for future reference bro...

 

[ciscoguy01]

+1 more

It's easy as hell to tell the difference between ash and hickory here in SE Michigan.

If the tree is still alive, it ain't ash!

That's what I'm thinking too. A telltale sign of hickory is the hollow middle and they make great birds nests, lmao... hehehehehehehe

 

[Peacock]

Thats very odd bro... I've never seen it like that, it's always been a smoother bark thats not layered. Can you take a pic for me??? I'd appreciate seeing that for future reference bro...

I'll try. Usually the bottom looks like normal white oak until 20-30ft up, then it gets shaggy. We have a local arboretum that has large area of just white oak and tulip tree and most of the white oaks there have this.

 

[sILlogger]

White Oak. The bark towards the top of the tree is starting to look similar to what was posted at the beginning of this thread.

that tree had metal in it didn't it??

for the original poster, yes that is white oak, shaggy bark that is softer than the bark of a hickory. white oak typically splits easy makes great wood. great firewood

here is a pic of a nice white oak on a patch of timber im supposed to be cutting, that is a 4' scale stick leaned against it for reference

 

[PA Plumber]

~snip~

that tree had metal in it didn't it??

Yep. Lots and lots of metal.

Things were going real well and I was missing all of the iron/metal when all of a sudden... dust.

Messed up the chain pretty badly and my extra chain was in a box marked correctly, but the chain was .063 and I needed .050. Had to hand file that thing back into shape.

Turned out to be a glass wire insulater I had hit.