Finding Quality Employees

[clearance]

Pretty easy to tell the difference. I don't use drugs period, I think anybody with half a brain could tell the difference between the two. Just trying to give my two cents. How about trying to give advice instead of insulting people.

Not insulting you, a little thinskinned you seem to be.
Strange but true fact about guys, some of the hardest working, and I mean balls to the wall producers that I have worked with over the years in heavy construction and jobs where you use a chainsaw all day are users. Heavy drug users, hard core drinkers, big issues. Some of them make the goody two shoes, never got drunk, never been arrested guys look downright lazy. When they show up that is, never reliable on showing up every day. When these guys get it together and lay off (maybe just smoke pot) they are great. That saying "work hard, play hard" is true.

 

[tree MDS]

One of the guys I used to work for was a born again, I had allready left at this point, but I heard this story from a buddy that still worked there, sort of like a foreman-awesome tree climber, big drinker. So the boss hires this ground guy from his church right, well I guess the guy sucked/was annoying or whatever. My buddy fires him, throws him out of the truck, makes him walk, and tells the boss "I told you, aint gonna find no tree worker at f@#$$#@ church !, ya otta start criusin the penitentiaries"! Ah man was that funny, ya gotta know these two, lol.

 

[ropensaddle]

One of the guys I used to work for was a born again, I had allready left at this point, but I heard this story from a buddy that still worked there, sort of like a foreman-awesome tree climber, big drinker. So the boss hires this ground guy from his church right, well I guess the guy sucked/was annoying or whatever. My buddy fires him, throws him out of the truck, makes him walk, and tells the boss "I told you, aint gonna find no tree worker at f@#$$#@ church !, ya otta start criusin the penitentiaries"! Ah man was that funny, ya gotta know these two, lol.

I only have a reputation. That said I can't allow my company to be known as a prisoner haven. I would use in a minute someone truly a changed man! I would rather have slow honest man than a lying thief! A drug addict working in a dangerous job, fine if he is not on my clock. I have known some smokers that work hard but what if they are in my customers yard and lite one, what does that do for my reputation?

 

[nytreeman]

Strange but true fact about guys, some of the hardest working, and I mean balls to the wall producers that I have worked with over the years in heavy construction and jobs where you use a chainsaw all day are users. ................................
When these guys get it together and lay off (maybe just smoke pot) they are great. That saying "work hard, play hard" is true.

I agree,I've known many guys,hardcore drinkers,smokers etc.,working in this biz and in construction,that were probably some of the toughest hardest working guys I've known,some serious alcoholics.But I'm not saying that I condone it on a job or anything like that somebodies is drinking on my jobsite and the're gone,but if you show up on time,do your job,arent a screwup, then why is it anybody's business if you drink a freakin' 12 pack every night or fire up a joint to unwind? Just like if someone chooses to abstain thats his right too. It should be a matter of choice,
this used to be a free country

 

[tree MDS]

I agree,I've known many guys,hardcore drinkers,smokers etc.,working in this biz and in construction,that were probably some of the toughest hardest working guys I've known,some serious alcoholics.But I'm not saying that I condone it on a job or anything like that somebodies is drinking on my jobsite and the're gone,but if you show up on time,do your job,arent a screwup, then why is it anybody's business if you drink a freakin' 12 pack every night or fire up a joint to unwind? Just like if someone chooses to abstain thats his right too. It should be a matter of choice,
this used to be a free country

Word.

 

[oldirty]

The problem with drug testing is there are alot of really friggin good tree guys that smoke pot, its just a fact. So I dont bother putting that in my help wanted adds, I figure the phone will never ring !

not to fuel the drug fires but the best tree guys i know get burnt. not only do they burn but they are far and away better than the straight edges i work with. much better.

 

[ropensaddle]

not to fuel the drug fires but the best tree guys i know get burnt. not only do they burn but they are far and away better than the straight edges i work with. much better.

Heyyyyyyyyyy mannnnnnnnnn like are we gonna climb that treeeeeeeeee?
Coooooooool mannnnnnnnnnnn a freeeeeeeeeeeee high
I need people that have sense around me not burnouts and junkies lol.

 

[oldirty]

I need people that have sense around me not burnouts and junkies lol.

going to say this again rope. i have been climbing for a hot minute now and when i tell you that the guys i know who do get burnt are better that those that dont believe it.

in fact i would gladly take a daily smoker on my crew than someone who has a drinking problem. wanting to leave the job early so they can get back to the shop and start drinking. the only thing a drunk thinks about is his next drink and that is going to affect his effort and result.


sure there might be an occasional knucklehead who cant handle their high but none that i have ever worked with.

and if i ruled the world alcohol would be illegal. that causes far more problems than a doobie would.


ive never seen anyone blackout and beat their wife after smoking a joint.

 

[ropensaddle]

going to say this again rope. i have been climbing for a hot minute now and when i tell you that the guys i know who do get burnt are better that those that dont believe it.

in fact i would gladly take a daily smoker on my crew than someone who has a drinking problem. wanting to leave the job early so they can get back to the shop and start drinking. the only thing a drunk thinks about is his next drink and that is going to affect his effort and result.


sure there might be an occasional knucklehead who cant handle their high but none that i have ever worked with.

and if i ruled the world alcohol would be illegal. that causes far more problems than a doobie would.


ive never seen anyone blackout and beat their wife after smoking a joint.

You make a point, I wonder have you seen a glue brain after years
of pot use? My point is, I disagree; a person that has drive that does
none of the nasties, will perform three times better than persons using
mind altering chemicals. Pot heads do work I agree, they are suffering
from a paranoia, a constant the mans watching syndrome! The real
problem is; they also suffer forgetfulness and I can't afford ooops wrong
rope True sobriety is the best.

 

[tree MDS]

You make a point, I wonder have you seen a glue brain after years
of pot use? My point is, I disagree; a person that has drive that does
none of the nasties, will perform three times better than persons using
mind altering chemicals. Pot heads do work I agree, they are suffering
from a paranoia, a constant the mans watching syndrome! The real
problem is; they also suffer forgetfulness and I can't afford ooops wrong
rope True sobriety is the best.

Rope, I'm sorry I find this post mildly annoying. Are you saying you dissagree with an employee smoking a doober after work, or having some beers ? I'm not saying saying on the job. I smoke pot and drink, after work and after any calls are returned etc. I'm not proud of it but its just me at this point. I dont lie in real life and I'm not gonna here either. I still do the same thing at night now as I did when I was younger- think about the days climb and try to think how it could've been better, or just enjoy the memories- and my buzz. So I gotta say does that make me a bad tree guy ? And if you were my boss and I showed up everyday worked safe (even if a little hung over) and made you a ton of money while talking to your customers with dignity and respect/taking care your equipment would that make me a bad employee ? By the way, WTF is "glue brain"?, and no, never seen it, can you post a pic ?

 

[ropensaddle]

Rope, I'm sorry I find this post mildly annoying. Are you saying you dissagree with an employee smoking a doober after work, or having some beers ? I'm not saying saying on the job. I smoke pot and drink, after work and after any calls are returned etc. I'm not proud of it but its just me at this point. I dont lie in real life and I'm not gonna here either. I still do the same thing at night now as I did when I was younger- think about the days climb and try to think how it could've been better, or just enjoy the memories- and my buzz. So I gotta say does that make me a bad tree guy ? And if you were my boss and I showed up everyday worked safe (even if a little hung over) and made you a ton of money while talking to your customers with dignity and respect/taking care your equipment would that make me a bad employee ? By the way, WTF is "glue brain"?, and no, never seen it, can you post a pic ?

While I respect your honesty, the answer to your question is no.
If I know you are using, I can't afford mistakes made because of drugs. If you want to know what a glue brain is; go to a rehab and ask a counselor to show what years of pot smoking does to a person! It is a progressive disease of mind and body, that has no place in dangerous work environments. Now am I going to make you p in a cup no, not unless your actions warrant it. Maybe you are one of those special few that control it and show no signs, if so more power to you!

 

[reachtreeservi]

Rope, I'm sorry I find this post mildly annoying. Are you saying you dissagree with an employee smoking a doober after work, or having some beers ? I'm not saying saying on the job. I smoke pot and drink, after work and after any calls are returned etc. I'm not proud of it but its just me at this point. I dont lie in real life and I'm not gonna here either. I still do the same thing at night now as I did when I was younger- think about the days climb and try to think how it could've been better, or just enjoy the memories- and my buzz. So I gotta say does that make me a bad tree guy ? And if you were my boss and I showed up everyday worked safe (even if a little hung over) and made you a ton of money while talking to your customers with dignity and respect/taking care your equipment would that make me a bad employee ? By the way, WTF is "glue brain"?, and no, never seen it, can you post a pic ?

By your own admission you are committing acts of behavior in your life that even you are not proud of.
And yet you expect others to be okay with your behavior. That must be some of that pothead logic.

There is a name for those that still do the same immoral and illegal acts when they get older that they did when they were young . Foolish.

Part of getting older is putting these foolish and childish things behind.
They call it growing up.

If you are doing drugs everyday , you are not a bad treeman.
The term treeman denotes a professional. And there's nothing professional about dope. Or dopers.

You are a liability.
And that's all you will ever be until you clean up your act and grow up.

 

[tree MDS]

By your own admission you are committing acts of behavior in your life that even you are not proud of.
And yet you expect others to be okay with your behavior. That must be some of that pothead logic.

There is a name for those that still do the same immoral and illegal acts when they get older that they did when they were young . Foolish.

Part of getting older is putting these foolish and childish things behind.
They call it growing up.

If you are doing drugs everyday , you are not a bad treeman.
The term treeman denotes a professional. And there's nothing professional about dope. Or dopers.

You are a liability.
And that's all you will ever be until you clean up your act and grow up.

Lol ! I'll bet I'm better than you are !

 

[reachtreeservi]

All druggies have delusions of grandeur.

 

[tree MDS]

All druggies have delusions of grandeur.

Fossil.

 

[reachtreeservi]

Fossil.

On the contrary, someone talking about doobies is the fossil here.

I'm a tree Industry Professional. A man striving to run my company and live my life in a manner that I can be proud of.

A man that keeps no secrets from his family and fears nothing if he pulls up to a highway checkpoint.

A man that if he gets hurt at work, can pee in a cup and have his medical bills took care of.

A man that cares more for his family than his own illegal , illicit addictions.

At the end of the day, that's what drugs are really about, isn't it?
Selfishness.

Someone who cares only about his addictions and is unable to conform to societal norms is the fossil.

 

[tree MDS]

On the contrary, someone talking about doobies is the fossil here.

I'm a tree Industry Professional. A man striving to run my company and live my life in a manner that I can be proud of.

A man that keeps no secrets from his family and fears nothing if he pulls up to a highway checkpoint.

A man that if he gets hurt at work, can pee in a cup and have his medical bills took care of.

A man that cares more for his family than his own illegal , illicit addictions.

At the end of the day, that's what drugs are really about, isn't it?
Selfishness.

Someone who cares only about his addictions and is unable to conform to societal norms is the fossil.

Its a good thing you got all that medical coverage judging by your biography! Man, rock climbing, sky diving, tree climbing too ! Man it dont seem like you're all that worried about the old fam to me.

 

[reachtreeservi]

I've been climbing and Skydiving for over 20 years without an injury, I'm slowing down a bit as I get older but I'm sure my family and I will be okay in the future.

I do have very good medical coverage .
And disability insurance. And life insurance.

But thank you for your concern for my family, I'm sure we'll all sleep better knowing our safety is on the mind of some doper.

 

[tree MDS]

I've been climbing and Skydiving for over 20 years without an injury, I'm slowing down a bit as I get older but I'm sure my family and I will be okay in the future.

I do have very good medical coverage .
And disability insurance. And life insurance.

But thank you for your concern for my family, I'm sure we'll all sleep better knowing our safety is on the mind of some doper.

How many years tree climbing ?

 

[reachtreeservi]

tree mds, Put down the pipe and pick up the phone.

Help is just a call away.