My roses ? I do own other saws ! (A larger Husky and did own 2 Stihls). I won't ever fall into the pecker contest that lots of people fall into. I have had an exceptional experience with Echos. I laughed at them some time ago when an older Logger showed up with one. He ran old gas, bargain oil, and beat the snot out of it. I thought it was just pure luck. Nope ! It wasn't. He still has it and some newer Echos. My Stihls are long gone. (I loved two of them like children.) I always use good gas and oils. I was talking with him one day and he told me..... Well ..... I owned alot of saws, so did dad, only ones still running are echos. Not as fast lad.... but they sure as hell last an' I don't need no parts for 'em.... they don' break. An' I still have me shoulders at the end of the day. So I bought an echo. I can't complain. As far as my roses.... At least I can trim them then go to the woods and cut "sticks". I do like other brands. I just don't have time for gas guzzlin... breakin' down....chain throwin'....cylinder scorin'.....never start over priced saws ! I really do like some other saws ! But alot of their users are what I like to call "CHEVY LOVERS". It blows my mind how narrow minded people are ! Example ..... Some people say CHEVY RULES .... GMC is okay but not them same as my Chev. Hahahahahaha ! Same sh!t different pile. Some people will actually pay more for a chevy, because it has that tacky bow tie on it. I watch them both roll off the line in my town. So.... Why would I pay bigger bucks for a Big name saw thats got a Fancy name on it. Maybe I should ! Just so I can impress everyone else ! Back to my roses.... They are always trimmed, cause my saw starts before yours, stays running, keeps cutting and doesn`t break down. There for my roses are trimmed.... and my firewood is cut, you... your saw isn`t ever running yet.... your`re still pulling..... ooopps ! You`ve got a scored cylinder ! Oooppps.....you`ve got carb problems ! I will be right by with my Echo rose trimmer to finish the work you have not even started......You`re still pulling......... I feel bad for you ! Here is a piece of tape to cover up the fancy name plate on your saw and another piece to help you hide your shame. And on top of that here`s a beer. I forgive you for your ingnorance..... You just don`t know any better.