No its fear......
Chain brake - helpful or hinderance
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No its fear......
spacemule
The Peanut Gallery
No, it's respect. Big difference. If you're afraid of something, you shouldn't be operating it.
Does a seat belt mean you're afraid of cars? No. Don't be an idiot.
o8f150
Tree Freak
i have chain brakes on my saws but not once ever used them but they are there if i do need them
Make up your mind, first you said common sense and appreciating your appendages.
Now you say its respect.
Your not sure are you, maybe your a idiot?
spacemule
The Peanut Gallery
Respect=common sense and appreciating your appendages. Extract your head.
RandyMac
Stiff Member
Oh yeah, I have seen that fear, forestry fire training, lots of fear shown by lots of different people, we used it in our weeding out process. Most of the scared ones, carried a McLeod at fires.
Respect is something that is learned, you apreciate the danger, go full tilt anyways.
teatersroad
What's a henway?
agreed. can't think to know who's afeard here under fire though, cuz aint nobody under fire here. chainbrake or not? whatever. hardly #### hitting the fan.
put someone in the ####, cool headed or not?
put someone in the ####, cool headed or not?
GASoline71
Mr. Nice Guy
Here we go... 
Gary
Gary
teatersroad
What's a henway?
where we go? just saying the question doesn't amount to much.
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
I have one without and six with I use the one with the most. However I wont tolerate the snappy people clickety click click click on my saws. My brake must work when it is designed to so basically wearing it out by clickety click click click is going to get you off my saws and dragging brush where your more qualified imho.
Chain brake is a useful safety item.
User competence and experience are even more useful.
The latter can substitute for the former, but not vice versa.
Also, stuff happens. Don't be stupid. Stuff will happen less often that way.
Did I miss anything?
User competence and experience are even more useful.
The latter can substitute for the former, but not vice versa.
Also, stuff happens. Don't be stupid. Stuff will happen less often that way.
Did I miss anything?
Justsaws
Addicted to ArboristSite
You have a perspective that most on this site do not and a willingness to learn from your past which many cannot.
If I have a choice I will choose one with a two pivot point chain brake, decent anti-vibe, inboard clutch and a plastic gas tank.
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ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
No that is the sum of it
MCW
Somebody's talking crap here & it ain't the tree!
I'll say this. I've never ever set a chain brake off in the course of cutting, and in my eyes that's a fair bit of cutting over the years but WELL short of many people here. A lot of time was spent on smaller pruning saws in Almonds and since on larger saws. I do hit the brake though when climbing over downed trees etc with the saw still running.
People have mentioned about putting faith in a chain brake to save yourself. I put that in a simliar boat as a safety on a firearm. Just cutting cookies and keeping yourself in the right position basically guarantees full safety. When you're out felling trees however, or bucking etc you can't always position yourself where you want. I cut above head height all the time, not because I want to, but because I have to and have confidence in my abilities. If I saw my brother doing it I'd kick his arse. I'm not scared of a saw at all but wouldn't swing an old saw with no chainbrake around like I do my Huskys or Dolmars.
However...
Anybody that has used a saw a lot will realise that accidents can happen no matter how experienced you are. This can be from unseen loads on a tree (ie: chain can get pinched when not expecting it), unseen limbs etc near the bar tip, and the list goes on. The most common one I would suggest is simply fatigue or not keeping your mind on the job. If anybody can say that they can spend 8-10 hours running a saw non stop, day after day and have never made a mistake then they're either playing with themselves or a chainsaw god (or more likely a bullsh!t artist ).
I'm sure all of us have thought at some stage "Sh!t, in hindsight I shouldn't have done that and today is my lucky day!", but got away with it...
People have mentioned about putting faith in a chain brake to save yourself. I put that in a simliar boat as a safety on a firearm. Just cutting cookies and keeping yourself in the right position basically guarantees full safety. When you're out felling trees however, or bucking etc you can't always position yourself where you want. I cut above head height all the time, not because I want to, but because I have to and have confidence in my abilities. If I saw my brother doing it I'd kick his arse. I'm not scared of a saw at all but wouldn't swing an old saw with no chainbrake around like I do my Huskys or Dolmars.
However...
Anybody that has used a saw a lot will realise that accidents can happen no matter how experienced you are. This can be from unseen loads on a tree (ie: chain can get pinched when not expecting it), unseen limbs etc near the bar tip, and the list goes on. The most common one I would suggest is simply fatigue or not keeping your mind on the job. If anybody can say that they can spend 8-10 hours running a saw non stop, day after day and have never made a mistake then they're either playing with themselves or a chainsaw god (or more likely a bullsh!t artist
).I'm sure all of us have thought at some stage "Sh!t, in hindsight I shouldn't have done that and today is my lucky day!", but got away with it...
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
I'll say this. I've never ever set a chain brake off in the course of cutting, and in my eyes that's a fair bit of cutting over the years but WELL short of many people here. A lot of time was spent on smaller pruning saws in Almonds and since on larger saws. I do hit the brake though when climbing over downed trees etc with the saw still running.
People have mentioned about putting faith in a chain brake to save yourself. I put that in a simliar boat as a safety on a firearm. Just cutting cookies and keeping yourself in the right position basically guarantees full safety. When you're out felling trees however, or bucking etc you can't always position yourself where you want. I cut above head height all the time, not because I want to, but because I have to and have confidence in my abilities. If I saw my brother doing it I'd kick his arse. I'm not scared of a saw at all but wouldn't swing an old saw with no chainbrake around like I do my Huskys or Dolmars.
However...
Anybody that has used a saw a lot will realise that accidents can happen no matter how experienced you are. This can be from unseen loads on a tree (ie: chain can get pinched when not expecting it), unseen limbs etc near the bar tip, and the list goes on. The most common one I would suggest is simply fatigue or not keeping your mind on the job. If anybody can say that they can spend 8-10 hours running a saw non stop, day after day and have never made a mistake then they're either playing with themselves or a chainsaw god (or more likely a bullsh!t artist
I'm sure all of us have thought at some stage "Sh!t, in hindsight I shouldn't have done that and today is my lucky day!", but got away with it...
Company I used to work for would hire these people that say they ran saws and some would be ok but many got their saw privilege taken away the first day by me. I agree with setting it when moving in thick brush but more often I just shut it off move and re-start I move where most of the cutting is! We had one guy that I never allowed to use a saw because he had the habit of resting it on his leg and tore two new sets of chaps up in two week=permanent brush dragger. Others thought the clickety noise was cool and I had to inform them the true purpose of the chain brake
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
They would also click it the gas the damn thing and beat the chain on the trunk
MCW
Somebody's talking crap here & it ain't the tree!
Company I used to work for would hire these people that say they ran saws and some would be ok but many got their saw privilege taken away the first day by me. I agree with setting it when moving in thick brush but more often I just shut it off move and re-start I move where most of the cutting is! We had one guy that I never allowed to use a saw because he had the habit of resting it on his leg and tore two new sets of chaps up in two week=permanent brush dragger. Others thought the clickety noise was cool and I had to inform them the true purpose of the chain brake
Yeah I agree. I've got a mate who snaps the brake on after nearly every cut even when the revs haven't dropped yet. I don't care if he does it with his old 029 but I won't let him touch mine doing that. One of the main reasons I use my brake is to make sure it works and to keep it working. They seem to get sticky with no use
I only hit the brake when moving over a few yards, any more than that I do what you do and turn the saw off.
It's funny how some people nearly kill themselves every day but manage to make it through to old age, generally covered in scars and with lingering aches and pains but never seem to have learnt any form of self preservation along the way
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
Yeah I agree. I've got a mate who snaps the brake on after nearly every cut even when the revs haven't dropped yet. I don't care if he does it with his old 029 but I won't let him touch mine doing that. One of the main reasons I use my brake is to make sure it works and to keep it working. They seem to get sticky with no use
I only hit the brake when moving over a few yards, any more than that I do what you do and turn the saw off.
It's funny how some people nearly kill themselves every day but manage to make it through to old age, generally covered in scars and with lingering aches and pains but never seem to have learnt any form of self preservation along the way
Yeah lucky for me, I still have all three teeth:hmm3grin2orange:
MCW
Somebody's talking crap here & it ain't the tree!
Anthony_Va.
XPW Fan Club
Man, it's just not smart to remove a chainbrake from a saw. If it did'nt come with one it's OK, but if it's there, and it works, why not leave it be. I see a few on here who act like they're above chainbrakes. If you're above the CB, you're above safelty IMO. If there's a chance that it could save your leg one day, then why would you not want that?
Some of these guys need to drop the "too cool for school" attitude. I don't click mine everytime I stop or move, but I do appreciate it being there. That don't make me a scardie cat, just shows respect for my saw IMO. If you don't know, these things can hurt you. Whether you're a "big man" or not.
Some of these guys need to drop the "too cool for school" attitude. I don't click mine everytime I stop or move, but I do appreciate it being there. That don't make me a scardie cat, just shows respect for my saw IMO. If you don't know, these things can hurt you. Whether you're a "big man" or not.
