Matt, yep thats me, sorry for the need not apply part, but you have no idea of the clowns that are in my area. They all resemble this Jeo. I am not having trouble keeping climbers, they don't quit, I fire them. Not because I'm a jerk, because they cannot perform or milk the clock. I'm not looking for just a climber either, but someone who can take over all the operations so I can focus on selling and the business. So if putting an add on here is a bad sign, I'm sorry. Just do not have the pool of potential employees others have, again there is a very small group of pros here, a very large group wannabees and druggie/drunks. There are some guys that have a problem with addiction that are pretty good, however, I don't need to worry about that stuff, if they cleaned up, I would talk to them, until then, stay away.The good ones either are owner/operators themselves or work for the big orange. Again, I have no problems keeping people, those who have been with me for years, came right back as soon as I was done with my little adventure back in the Marines. These guys are my ground guys. Had a GREAT climber, when I was called back, I got him a job at Wright, quickly he advanced, now a GF with Asplundh, cant hardly expect him to leave, with all the bennies he has, young wife with one in the oven, so I have not even asked him. I suppose I may be a little hard on the expectations I have. I was trained by Pros, worked with Pros, I want a Pro. Sorry If I have to look elsewhere to get one, If any one has a better idea, please let me know. I figured running an add in the local paper was pointless, All those who would apply, I probably have already talked to them or seen their performance at their current company. So I put an add on here and CL hoping to find "that guy" someone I don't have to train. Someone that will take pride and ownership in his work. That there my friends is the hardest part.