I look at it like this by the time I have my climb line installed and my knot tied can be 20' of the ground in gaffs.When i reach the top I install it to go out on limbs and such and I coil my lowering line up and hang it off one of my dee rings.
The standard as I know it is...
"Arborists shall use a second point of attachment (work-positioning lanyard or double-crotched rope) when operating chain saws in a tree, unless the employer demonstrates that a greater hazard is posed by using a second point of attachment while operating chain saws in that particular situation."
Who gave the seminar? What you posted here reads like two fliplines makes a secure position.
It has been my observation that people who routinely require high lines for removals are not comfortable on their spurs.
D Mc
does he go by the name **** or richard?
Vermeer salesmen as a trainer in safety and proper climbing technique?
Let me know if I can come down and spout off alot of knowledge then try to sell you something. He should stick to what he is employed to do and that is sell you equipment. Leave the training seminars to the certified and specialists.
When ever someone is trying to "sell" me something I always wonder what their underlying motives might be.
It's like saying the guy on the informercial you saw last night was educating you on proper biological control and then tries to sell you a vaccuum cleaner.
He might know a lot about biological control but why is he sticking his foot in about biological microbials in a foreign environment, anthrax as a toxic substance. Stick to the facts about the product and leave the informative presentation to the scientific community.
Sorry, I dont see any gain in safety to tie into a removal <evergreen> when the safest part of the tree is the trunk not branches you can throw a tip over. Especially in the winter. Those pines snap like twigs under to much pressure. Also there are more lines to keep track of while cutting on the way up. If you have a technique that is safe and works for you then use it.
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i do consider my lanyard a climbing line(a line used to climb with)so when
Yeah kinda like the time I was at an osha meeting the instructorI understood at this seminar that this new standard is coming soon so possibly the jury is still out on it.
That is one reason I wanted to start this discussion.
I know for a fact some of the instructors at the seminar are AS members who will hopefully chime in here.
I'm all about reasonable standards but this seems a stretch. Next thing will be that no work can be performed aloft unless from a bucket truck.
We need to exercise maximum personal responsibility and keep the detailed/dictated standards at a reasonable level.
Like someone said above, I find most ANSI rules very realistic but this one seems a bit far reaching. I'd like its feasibility severely debated before becoming gospel.
Wait till ya do it with a 2101Its pretty much an everyday thing for me too but with that size of a saw i don't do it as often as I would with a top handle saw.
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