I'm still here,,,,,,,,,just reading all the replies. Didn't expect to be preached to. Just because I asked about climbing gear,,,,doesn't mean I am going out the next day and climb. I've been crazy in some of my days ,, but I am not stupid( Exander ) , just curious for now. Of course some of you were nice enough to give me a strait answer ON WHAT I ASKED,,, thanks. For now I'll just make money with my new VERMEER stump grinder and keep removing the downed trees with my skid loader..........but one day ........