Dealers on the East Coast just do not seem to handle very many wrap handle saws, just the way it is. Likely cause when you are taking down a tree in a yard, you want to stump it as close to the ground as you can.
MS461 or MS461R ?
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Glockem45
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Maybe I shouldn't get a Wrap then....
Adirondackstihl
Flyz, Fuel & Fotos
The HO oiler is nice.
I wish however that they offered a factory FULL wrap.
Skeans
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Why not a west coast dealer like Madsen's and have one shipped out?
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Adirondackstihl
Flyz, Fuel & Fotos
Any dealer can ship a saw.
Whether or not they choose to is another story.......
Wrap saws often have a lot of advantages, which MAY include HO oiler, dual dogs, high capacity shoot, and on the 661, those cool vented dogs, so it can pay to order one even if you don't want a wrap handle.
Actually mike its primarily because there arent as many hand cutters working on the east coast vs the west , nor the terrain the guys out west navigate..yard trees are taken on either coast then flushed and ground out...guys here dont run as long of bars on powerheads on this side either.
Glockem45
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Does it come with all that, or do I need to specifically ask for it, such as the HO Oiler ?
Adirondackstihl
Flyz, Fuel & Fotos
The "R" model comes with those options as standard equipment
Deets066
Firewood hack
Can you order an "R" model with the 661 dogs if it isn't a 661?
Nope...they dont fit a 461 anyway.
Deets066
Firewood hack
They didn't fix that stupid problem when they came out with the 461
.I can take the dogs off muh 066 and put them on an 026. But not 046\461, great ingenuity there!
THALL10326
The Champ
Your big saw is a 290 and a regular MS461 doesn't get it for you, you have to have the R version, the full wrap handle, hmmmm, interesting.
Adirondackstihl
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Always one in the bunch
THALL10326
The Champ
Yup I guess your right. I've been selling Stihl in northern Virginia for over 20 years now. To date I've had one customer request a full wrap handle saw. That was back in 07. He wanted a heated handle full wrap 441. He's been the only one that's ever requested a full wrap saw. Guess we'll have 2 in Virginia now,LOL
Deets066
Firewood hack
He must have been on AS
MontanaTed
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@Glockem45 I can feel your pain. I live in an area in MT where if you want most anything you have to order it. Despite being the third largest city here, it doesn't matter if its sporting goods, clothing, tools etc. We are just in a poor location, sure we have big box stores and small dealers but just the way it goes.
Advice from a newly CAD bitten member, if you want a R version get it off the get go otherwise you'll end up just ordering another one or ordering parts. Wait you'll end up doing it anyhow.
The R versions are great in IMO whether your in steep terrain or not if for nothing else than the BA factor they have.
The dogs, HO oiler and handle are all great features, don't let the naysayers discourage you from getting what you are looking for. Doesn't matter if you are the only the second guy in 20 years to want one in VA...get and feel even cooler because you are the only second one in VA to get one. And if you really want to throw them for a loop tell them you want ES Light bar with it too! I know the dealers look at me cross eyed here when I ask for those...Good luck and there are plenty of folks one here that are willing to help out find the saw you want, heck I'd send one from MT but that might get it out of the price range really quickly since it's full retail here or nothing from what I have found around me.
Advice from a newly CAD bitten member, if you want a R version get it off the get go otherwise you'll end up just ordering another one or ordering parts. Wait you'll end up doing it anyhow.
The R versions are great in IMO whether your in steep terrain or not if for nothing else than the BA factor they have.
The dogs, HO oiler and handle are all great features, don't let the naysayers discourage you from getting what you are looking for. Doesn't matter if you are the only the second guy in 20 years to want one in VA...get and feel even cooler because you are the only second one in VA to get one. And if you really want to throw them for a loop tell them you want ES Light bar with it too! I know the dealers look at me cross eyed here when I ask for those...Good luck and there are plenty of folks one here that are willing to help out find the saw you want, heck I'd send one from MT but that might get it out of the price range really quickly since it's full retail here or nothing from what I have found around me.
THALL10326
The Champ
Naa not really. The guy that bought that full wrap 441 wanted those heated handles more than anything else. Said his fingers get cold and he like the idea of a warm handle. I had to order it from my distributor, Mid-Atlantic Stihl in NC. They had to get it shipped in from a distributor out west. Just no demand for heated handles or full wraps on the east coast. If there was you can rest assured we'd have them on the shelves.
What comes with the wrap handle version is not the same for every saw. Some do not have HO oilers.
Also, I think the only 661 with the vented dogs is the wrap version, but they do look & work nice on my 044!
Also, I think the only 661 with the vented dogs is the wrap version, but they do look & work nice on my 044!
