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I have run them all day long , many times from a half hour after sunrise til it was too dark to see at all. A fellow I knew well logged about 500 acres just behind us on Lake Charlotte with a NU17. 30 years later I retrieved that saw from a dilapated caved in log cabin and restored it.
diggers_dad
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I'm 5' 11", about 230 pounds and have no issues going toe to toe with anyone should the need arise, but would give a wide berth to any man who could run one of those all day long.
My hat is off to you, Jerry, and to the fella that logged the 500 acres. Your generation was a different one than mine. Many "men" my age (46) think they have really had it rough if the air conditioning is broken. Heaven forbid they have to drive a car without satellite radio or (GASP!!!) NO POWER WINDOWS!!!
I remember the first car I had with power steering! THAT is a luxury!
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I appreciate the effort Marc,just consider it a learning experience.:smile2: I have a good P28 cover that I will check the fit on a 2073 parts saw I have. I really appreciate all the help I received on this thread today. It has been a learning experience for me also. Later Jim
Steve NW WI
Unwanted Riff Raff.
Jim, if a P series cover will work for ya, let me know, and I'll send one down with the 'Sconnie boys. Got one off a P-25 here that looks rough, but not as bad as Diggers'. Might even have one a bit better in the shed, but won't know till morning.
diggers_dad
Sawchologist
Happy to help my friend. I didn't even realize I had a P-28 until I started digging to answer your question! I hope it fits up well. I don't know the differences between the 1073 and 2073 but they appear to be minor.
dd
I'm by no means an expert. My old Scottish heart won't let me waste time, trouble, or expense only to find it won't work. Measure twice cut once.
Lou
Here's a question for the real experts.
How difficult would it be to fit a new Oregon Intenz bar to a Pioneer?
Lou
How difficult would it be to fit a new Oregon Intenz bar to a Pioneer?
Lou
. I got lots here, either P series or 1073. Let me know if you need one.
i need me one of those P covers. course i need a P50 or bigger under it. just sayin.
When I was just 9 years old I was running the Pioneer 600 bucking hardwood logs into firewood with my dads supervision, When I reached 13 the 600 became mine and I got to run it all on my own. The 600 is much bigger and heavier than a NU17 and would weigh in at around 33-34 lbs with a full fuel and oil tank, a 24" hardnose bar and chain. On a good day back then I would dump 100+ trees off the stump after carrying that saw, a full gallon of fuel, gallon of bar oil an axe + my lunch for 1.5 miles from home to the face of the woodlot we were cutting at. Got to walk home after dark with the same load - my lunch....LOL
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Newbie here. Got my 1st Pioneer
Picked up a couple saws at a local recycler on a whim. A hsq65 and a Pioneer P41s. Hsq was running and in decent shape. P41 was looking sorry and wouldn't start.
Took it home and cleaned it up. Checked spark, all good. Poured some gas in the carb and turned her over a couple times and she fired right up. Took a bit to convince her to stay running. Had to strip and clean the carb. New fuel etc. seems to run good now but if I keep her I will be doing a carb kit, fuel filter etc. Haven't done a comp test yet as I don't have a gauge yet. Seems low though I read that the double ring build comp as they run. Piston has some light scoring, id imagine par for course for a saw this old. Exhaust port is bridged. Carbon build up on piston head and exhaust port but seems fairly light.
The bar and chain are original. The chain beeping marked pioneer. They are both in rough shape though. Someone sharpened the chain on a very long angle. I also have never seen a chain where the back of the tooth was on a angle though I am new at this chainsaw obsession. The bar is marked made in Canada but is in rough shape. Rivets loose on roller tip, chips out of rail edges etc. will be buying new bar and chain if I keep her.
Anyway at the moment I'm in the process of doing a more thorough cleaning of the years of crud. Couldent hardly see the coil or cooling fins under the recoil cover when I took it apart. Starting to look better now.
So now I have to decide weather to keep her and put some money into her and become a collector or sell her off. My problem is space and that I already have a jonsered 920 (in like new cond) and 535. The hsq65 and a new craftsman 35cc that I just picked up for free and fixed. Don't need more saws but they sure are fun.
I have enjoyed reading all the posts on this forum and learned lots. Keep it up.
Picked up a couple saws at a local recycler on a whim. A hsq65 and a Pioneer P41s. Hsq was running and in decent shape. P41 was looking sorry and wouldn't start.
Took it home and cleaned it up. Checked spark, all good. Poured some gas in the carb and turned her over a couple times and she fired right up. Took a bit to convince her to stay running. Had to strip and clean the carb. New fuel etc. seems to run good now but if I keep her I will be doing a carb kit, fuel filter etc. Haven't done a comp test yet as I don't have a gauge yet. Seems low though I read that the double ring build comp as they run. Piston has some light scoring, id imagine par for course for a saw this old. Exhaust port is bridged. Carbon build up on piston head and exhaust port but seems fairly light.
The bar and chain are original. The chain beeping marked pioneer. They are both in rough shape though. Someone sharpened the chain on a very long angle. I also have never seen a chain where the back of the tooth was on a angle though I am new at this chainsaw obsession. The bar is marked made in Canada but is in rough shape. Rivets loose on roller tip, chips out of rail edges etc. will be buying new bar and chain if I keep her.
Anyway at the moment I'm in the process of doing a more thorough cleaning of the years of crud. Couldent hardly see the coil or cooling fins under the recoil cover when I took it apart. Starting to look better now.
So now I have to decide weather to keep her and put some money into her and become a collector or sell her off. My problem is space and that I already have a jonsered 920 (in like new cond) and 535. The hsq65 and a new craftsman 35cc that I just picked up for free and fixed. Don't need more saws but they sure are fun.
I have enjoyed reading all the posts on this forum and learned lots. Keep it up.
diggers_dad
Sawchologist
Welcome aboard! Chainsaws aren't a passion here - they are an obsession!
Keep the Pioneer. If you run it a while you'll be hooked on it. They are good, solid saws with lots of character.
New guy rep headed your way.
dd
New guy rep?
7oaks
DRUGSTORE LOGGER
HELP -- need fuel line and filter for 610
Can anybody help me out with locating a fuel line and filter for my 610? I assume a 600, 610 and 620 will work?
I have one for a IEL RA but it is too short!
Can I use a Stihl type fuel filter along with the right length of new gas line as a replacement?
Any help much appreciated - I'd like to get this 610 running but this is the final missing link - I think. :msp_biggrin:
Can anybody help me out with locating a fuel line and filter for my 610? I assume a 600, 610 and 620 will work?
I have one for a IEL RA but it is too short!
Can I use a Stihl type fuel filter along with the right length of new gas line as a replacement?
Any help much appreciated - I'd like to get this 610 running but this is the final missing link - I think. :msp_biggrin:
Any reason you can't use a piece of Tygon?
No reason at all but find the thinner side walled type, it is what I have had to go to as NOS lines are really scarce and won`t last very long in todays gasoline, think mushy rubber in 10-12 months.
7oaks
DRUGSTORE LOGGER
Thanks - that is what I was wondering ie if others have had to do this. As Jerry points out below he has and I guess that's what I'll be doing. Again thanks for the quick response.
Thanks Jerry...Looks like that's what I'll be doing!
See if you can find a piece of the thinner walled TYGON ,it is more flexible and will allow the filter to stay in the lowest part of the fuel tank no matter what angle the saw is tilted to. The thicker walled type is just a little too stiff to allow this. Fuel lines in general are becoming a biotch to find that are really flexible and also resistant to the E factor in modern gasoline.
machinisttx
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Anyone happen to have a parts list for a P26E? One was given to me with a 16" pioneer bar and what I presume is the original chain(which is shot). It's missing the air filter cover and air filter, but I'm not sure if anything else is missing since I'm not familiar with them. Checked it last night and it has spark. There's a plastic 90 degree elbow at the carb fuel inlet that is cracked though, so I don't know if it will pull fuel or not. Guess I'll have to pour a little in and see.
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