Questions about the small Deere/Efco saws

[KarlP]

I've got a 385xp for the big stuff and a 353 for the small stuff. I'm thinking about picking up one of the small Deere saws on clearance for keeping in the back of the truck, loaning out, and limbing really small stuff.

Is the only difference between the CS36 and CS40 a larger diameter piston/cylinder?

On the Bailey's Efco spec sheet the CS40 is quieter and has less vibration than the CS36 . Is this true in the real world?

Other than color, is there any reason not to order Efco parts from Bailey's instead of Deere parts from a Deere dealer?

Since I have the 353, I'm looking for a cheap/light saw. Is there a substantial feature or quality difference between the CS46 and the 36/40 line that should make me reconsider?

Thanks!

 

[brinkwolf]

I have a CS36 and once you start using it you wont want to just loan it out to someone who might trash it(these are great little saws). As for the rest I can't tell you but mine isn't that loud and very comfortable to use.

 

[Taxmantoo]

Is the only difference between the CS36 and CS40 a larger diameter piston/cylinder?

Yes.

On the Bailey's Efco spec sheet the CS40 is quieter and has less vibration than the CS36 . Is this true in the real world?

What Efco models are you comparing?

Other than color, is there any reason not to order Efco parts from Bailey's instead of Deere parts from a Deere dealer?

Since I have the 353, I'm looking for a cheap/light saw. Is there a substantial feature or quality difference between the CS46 and the 36/40 line that should make me reconsider?

Parts is parts. Buy whatever's cheaper, which probably won't have a Deere logo on the bag.

CS46 is larger than CS36/40. Same construction, just a bit beefier. If you can find a CS52 it will better justify the weight. I do wish the CS40 was only 10% more than the CS36 when I bought mine, I would have bought the 40 instead.

 

[brinkwolf]

Mine was a freebie door prize(brand new)so I didn't think much about it. I let a bud of mine use it to cut up his firewood for his bbq pit back when it was still new. He had it about two years and I finally got it back from him and of course by then it looked used. Well I used it and wish I had never let anyone use it after that(great little saw).

 

[KarlP]

What Efco models are you comparing?

I'm assuming CS36 = MT3700 and CS40 = MT4000. Yes?

 

[Etced]

john deere

I picked up a cs46 for $164.00 shipped. So far I have put 2 tanks thru it, adjusted the carb, great saw for the money. It definitely was tight on the first tank, but starting to loosen up now. Checked compression after 2 tanks, 160 PSI. I noticed that he bumped up the price to $184.00 now.

 

[Taxmantoo]

I'm assuming CS36 = MT3700 and CS40 = MT4000. Yes?

No, those are the modern stratocharged replacements.
IIRC, Bailey's sold the JD equivalents as 136 and 140, and changed over to the new four digit models after the old ones sold out last fall.
http://www.mowdirect.co.uk/acatalog/MowDIRECT_EFCO_PETROL_CHAINSAWS_1036.html

Bailey's still sells the red versions of the JD CS46, CS52 and CS56 (note that the old saws don't claim "40% better fuel efficiency"):
http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=EF+147+16&catID=1018
http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=EF+152+16&catID=1018
http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=EF+156+16&catID=1018

 

[KarlP]

No, those are the modern stratocharged replacements.
IIRC, Bailey's sold the JD equivalents as 136 and 140, and changed over to the new four digit models after the old ones sold out last fall.


Bailey's still sells the red versions of the JD CS46, CS52 and CS56 (note that the old saws don't claim "40% better fuel efficiency"):

Oops. I'm actually looking at the closeout CS36LE and CS40LE models which I believe are the stratocharged ones.

 

[Taxmantoo]

Oops. I'm actually looking at the closeout CS36LE and CS40LE models which I believe are the stratocharged ones.

You may be right. Perhaps the "LE" models are "Low Emissions".
The parts catalog for both the CS40LE and the MT-4000 have that funny air tube assembly on the right side of the cylinder. My Deere service manual doesn't cover that, but it only mentions the CS36 and CS40, not the LE models.

http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductC...s.ProdCatProduct?pNbr=UT26527&tM=HO&link=enav
http://www.efcopower.com/Sezione.jsp?idSezione=720&idSezioneRif=721&titolo=Current Models