Stihl 084 - worst muffler I have seen to date - PICS!
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So it IS ok to take care of your equipment and have some pride in your tools? This is abuse of a corpse....
I don't think it's abuse. I've got one in the garage right now that was always scored inside, and it's been welded on a few times. Not sure. More like thin steel that vibrated to death. Or something.
This one will be getting 1/8" plate steel exhaust flange in the back and We'll see how the corners go. I'm almost tempted trace the muffler cover on some 1/8" plate and just cut a flat front cover for it...
You can tell someone already tried to braise it...
You can tell someone already tried to braise it...
Not a high production unit. Yes there is need out there but how many of these are out there and how many still in service??? If you were them would you take the time to make a part you'll sell millions of (ms290-390), or one you'll sell a couple thousand of?
They will always spend the time to make parts for high production saws that have millions of units still in service. Higher profit for the time they spend engineering and tooling.
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True, but the MS290-390 stuff sells for insanely cheap...top ends for $20, etc. Volume (supply) makes their money in this case.
If they stamped these mufflers, every guy with an 084 would buy 2, even at $75 a piece. Demand (lack of supply) would make their money in this case.
Why wait for the Chinese to make AM 084 mufflers, take a good OEM muffler for measure and replicate them useing awailable tooling like welding.
That one pictured in the OP is in need of a serious overhaul!
That one pictured in the OP is in need of a serious overhaul!
Michigan Escapee
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Now if only you could scan the busted parts, touch them up in the computer, and 3D print the stamping dies.
Probably too much voodoo to backward interpolate the dies. Probably possibly to build up and sinter some cheap, but strong enough alloy like zamak, but that, or castings off a plastic copy would be heavy. And then some bright boys dreamed up this monster for one off sheetmetal stuff. Probably costs $5 mil or worse. http://blog.atmel.com/2013/08/13/3-d-printing-for-sheet-metal-sort-of/ Well, it'll give the shoprats something to dream about for a while. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incremental_sheet_forming
I bought a front cover for one about 2 years ago, no problem from a dealer. around $35
BBB
BBB
Last I knew cover was still available
Someone said something about a repop from China.
One of the good Aussie brothers mentioned it.
Someone said something about a repop from China.
One of the good Aussie brothers mentioned it.
Best idea.
Maybe a back stamping
A center section.
Front flange.
Use parts as needed.
Silver braze.
The mail I have is the Chinese manufacture has been sent a nos 084 muffler to copy.
That's right. You're the guy. Lol
I said 3 parts so you could use what you did have.
Silver brazing would work with carbon and SS.
I was thinking more of repair.
The can wouldn't have to be 1/16". Unless just to attach the cover too.
I figured that. Lol
Most I see aren't as bad as in the first post.
And Happy Birthday!!!!!!
Oh Heck. Let's go for Titanium.
A friend worked on a sand packed 12 into 4 years ago.
This should be easy. NOT!!!
