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DannytreeLLC

DannytreeLLC

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My employees have been acting up lately. I am a smaller operation and it is just me and 3 guys that work for me. Today, on a job site the clients neighbor came out and was upset we were taking down the clients tree. Long story short the two guys on the ground beat the neighbor up. Talk about embarrassing. Anyways after we got back to the shop, the same 2 guys got in a fist fight with one another. I am at a loss for how to handle this, I can’t afford to lose 2/3 of my work force, but I also can’t risk these guys doing this again.
 
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DannytreeLLC

DannytreeLLC

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I’ve heard it’s impossible to find people to work right now. A lot love to claim the unemployment these days with the fake corona virus. These guys are pretty good workers, so it would suck to lose them if their replacements weren’t hard working. Just glad my climber doesn’t have these issues
 
lone wolf

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I’ve heard it’s impossible to find people to work right now. A lot love to claim the unemployment these days with the fake corona virus. These guys are pretty good workers, so it would suck to lose them if their replacements weren’t hard working. Just glad my climber doesn’t have these issues
Just tell them next fight they are fired!
 
DannytreeLLC

DannytreeLLC

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I am more worried about them getting in another altercation with a customer/ neighbor. We got really lucky this time that the police weren’t involved (apparently the guy’s son has a warrant so he didn’t call). He did say some really hateful names to my guys, so I understand why they were mad.
 
lone wolf

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I am more worried about them getting in another altercation with a customer/ neighbor. We got really lucky this time that the police weren’t involved (apparently the guy’s son has a warrant so he didn’t call). He did say some really hateful names to my guys, so I understand why they were mad.
Houses are always too close when this happens.
 
KarlD

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Assuming the neighbour was asking for a slap, I’d let them off this time with a very clear warning that if ANY aggression verbal or physical is directed towards ANYBODY when they are representing me, they will be sacked on the spot, and if they want to fight each other it has to be on their time away from me and the business.
The reality is that good team member are very hard to come by and if you think you can keep them under control from now on it might be worth the effort. If you don’t think you can, choose the one you like/value the most and sack the other one. Should set an example for the one who stays and hopefully build some respect and trust between you.
Climbers don’t tend to get lairy because they know they have nothing to prove; anyone that can ascend on ropes to >20m with a chainsaw day in day out normally already has their **** squared away
 
DannytreeLLC

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Well, Danny Tree is looking for a new grounds man. One of my guys, who was involved in last weeks altercation, showed up drunk today. I sent him home and realized after the job that he had thrown up in the back of my truck. So I called him and said don’t worry about coming back, your check will be in the mail this afternoon.
 
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Well, Danny Tree is looking for a new grounds man. One of my guys, who was involved in last weeks altercation, showed up drunk today. I sent him home and realized after the job that he had thrown up in the back of my truck. So I called him and said don’t worry about coming back, your check will be in the mail this afternoon.
Solved one problem.
 
Stephen Meister

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Well, Danny Tree is looking for a new grounds man. One of my guys, who was involved in last weeks altercation, showed up drunk today. I sent him home and realized after the job that he had thrown up in the back of my truck. So I called him and said don’t worry about coming back, your check will be in the mail this afternoon.
Now you know the root of the original problem, alcohol.
 
Stephen Meister

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Does alcohol make people act like azzholes or does it bring it out from people that already are azzholes? I don't drink alcohol at all so this is a serious question.
Not sure, I think it depends on the person. I’ve seen otherwise good people turn into jerks and I’ve seen other people that you’ve suspected of being jerks, reveal themselves when they’re drunk. Not sure it’s a one shoe fits all scenario.
 
farmer steve

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Does alcohol make people act like azzholes or does it bring it out from people that already are azzholes? I don't drink alcohol at all so this is a serious question.
I've known some people that never touched a drop of liquor and were AH. Also know some that drink more than they should and are the best people. Then a couple that a drink or 2 turns them into the biggest AH you never want to know.
 
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