Silvey raker grinder clone

[Marks Repair]

Hello, this is my first post. I sharpen a lot of chains for customers and have been looking for a silvey raker grinder for a while , with no luck. So i thought i would make one. with a couple of pictures and a few videos on youtube this is what i came up with.




It's not perfect but it works well. Not bad for $50 in scrap metal and a harbor freight motor.

 

[Stihl 041S]

Nice work Ol Buddy!!!!!

 

[Stihl 041S]

Jeezzzzz. I thought a bunch of folks would have liked this already...z

 

[emf123]

Very cool! I need one do you have any overall pictures of it? how do you keep tension on the chain?

 

[Marks Repair]

here are some pictures of it . the tensioner is a 12 inch bar i had laying around. It just slides up or down.

 

[Marks Repair]

Sorry about the mess in the background but its a working shop

 

[rd35]

Sir you are an inspiration! That has got to be one of the coolest prototype clones I have ever seen. What I like the most is how your one short video helped me to finally understand how the wheel lift shoe is able to clear the wheel from the cutting edge of each tooth without letting the shoe itself damage the cutter. Awesome job Mark! Thanks for showing us this amazing piece of work! Now I have to get busy building one for my shop!!!!

 

[Mike Gott]

Hello, this is my first post. I sharpen a lot of chains for customers and have been looking for a silvey raker grinder for a while , with no luck. So i thought i would make one. with a couple of pictures and a few videos on youtube this is what i came up with.




It's not perfect but it works well. Not bad for $50 in scrap metal and a harbor freight motor.

Care to share details on how you built it

 

[Yotaismygame]

So what if you have a few teeth that hit a rock and they had to be ground down farther than the rest, are you still only grinding the rakers the same depth as the rest of the teeth? The best way to file rakers is per individual tooth, not one height does them all.

Cool idea though

 

[Stihl 041S]

So what if you have a few teeth that hit a rock and they had to be ground down farther than the rest, are you still only grinding the rakers the same depth as the rest of the teeth? The best way to file rakers is per individual tooth, not one height does them all.

Cool idea though

In production ain’t gonna happen.
Teeth will be ground the same I think anyway

 

[Skeans]

So what if you have a few teeth that hit a rock and they had to be ground down farther than the rest, are you still only grinding the rakers the same depth as the rest of the teeth? The best way to file rakers is per individual tooth, not one height does them all.

Cool idea though

In production ain’t gonna happen.
Teeth will be ground the same I think anyway

Always was taught all teeth need to be the same length same with rakers to have equal cuts as well as bar wear.


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[Yotaismygame]

Always was taught all teeth need to be the same length same with rakers to have equal cuts as well as bar wear.


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That’s not entirely correct. You can take a brand new chain, file down one side and not touch the other. Then take a raker gauge and file all the rakers accordingly. Saw will cut perfectly straight and still be smooth. That’s been proven. Like I said earlier if you hit something and damage five teeth real good, you’re telling me you’re going to file all the teeth down to match?

In production that could be true. Most chains probably just dull up.

 

[Skeans]

That’s not entirely correct. You can take a brand new chain, file down one side and not touch the other. Then take a raker gauge and file all the rakers accordingly. Saw will cut perfectly straight and still be smooth. That’s been proven. Like I said earlier if you hit something and damage five teeth real good, you’re telling me you’re going to file all the teeth down to match?

In production that could be true. Most chains probably just dull up.

Yes I do, I grind all the teeth the same running harvester you see the difference with bar wear much faster from a side to side difference in the cutters it looks like a miss fire. Even running square when hand falling you’ll see a side walk in large wood your cuts will not line up most guys compensate well cutting, take that chain that’s filed like you say and let go of the handle it’ll walk or mismatch the cut.


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[Stihl 041S]

That’s not entirely correct. You can take a brand new chain, file down one side and not touch the other. Then take a raker gauge and file all the rakers accordingly. Saw will cut perfectly straight and still be smooth. That’s been proven. Like I said earlier if you hit something and damage five teeth real good, you’re telling me you’re going to file all the teeth down to match?

In production that could be true. Most chains probably just dull up.

I sharpen mainly for orchards. Lol
They don’t stop when dull often.
So you grind them all back.

 

[Yotaismygame]

Yes I do, I grind all the teeth the same running harvester you see the difference with bar wear much faster from a side to side difference in the cutters it looks like a miss fire. Even running square when hand falling you’ll see a side walk in large wood your cuts will not line up most guys compensate well cutting, take that chain that’s filed like you say and let go of the handle it’ll walk or mismatch the cut.


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A raker gauge that files each tooth individually will make different cutter lengths cut straight. Fact.

 

[chipper1]

Very cool.

 

[Philbert]

Just seeing this, almost a year later! Any updates? Guarding?

Thanks.

Philbert

 

[Alvareri]

It almost seems like it's time for someone to build a sliding-compound-miter-saw style grinder which references off the two adjacent teeth- much like a file and gauge does

 

[Philbert]

It almost seems like it's time for someone to build a sliding-compound-miter-saw style grinder which references off the two adjacent teeth- much like a file and gauge does

Welcome to A.S.

Could you sketch that idea out?

Thanks.

Philbert

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Just seeing this, almost a year later! Any updates? Guarding?

Thanks.

Philbert

Did you see this one? The guy was in my CRG and was selling them for a pretty hefty price. Several pics in link http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain/new-raker-grinder/